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To: Kaslin
Logically, rationally and financially, this article is correct - college should not be for every young man or women.
The main problem is, is that we have be preached at for more than 40 years that it is “part of the American dream”, that it is a G-d-given “right” to attend higher education.

This concept has been drilled into our heads that a college education is a must in order to live a normal life in America today.

Every Presidential speech or State of the Union always includes that old cheer-leading pep talk about how “folks should be able to send their kids to college” and many other platitudes.

Debt be damned! What me worry Alfred E. Newman? The college loan program (that went bust decades ago) is a way of taking away personal responsibility for students and their families. Attend now, party today, pay later, live the collegiate life now.

No, I think we've come too far, made too many promises, attached too much importance to an undergraduate degree to call the whole thing off now.

How can we alter this monstrous concept in an age of entitlements? It's worse now than when I graduated in 1982!

How can the clock be turned back. This is like asking the government or private sector to stop over spending, stop living the good life when you do not have the funds to back it up. Nope, we're used to “having it all”.

Try taking away these “rights” and you'll get full scale revolution similar to what we saw at the Wall Street rallies - the Left, unhinged.

2 posted on 10/28/2013 5:00:31 AM PDT by Netz
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To: Netz

Or, by transforming college.

That is, additional school beyond high school that is related to learning hands on how to work in a lab or perform specific functions on a computer or many many other fairly specific hands on jobs. That is , trade schools.

In our area the industry demanded and assisted State schools are doing just that and producing what the local industries require. Additionally, there is some English and Math thrown in to assure minimum skill level.

The biggest and best such school has grown by leaps and bounds and has taken students away from the local university where many would have enrolled and dropped out. Students alwayshave the option of continuing their education when they graduate from the trade school.


7 posted on 10/28/2013 5:12:48 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: Netz

As a University graduate, my first answer is ‘No’ and my second answer is ‘Hell, No!’

And this is from someone, who actually thought he was taking a useful degree when I went in, namely in the biological sciences. How was I to know that I would be finishing my M.Sc. several months before Wall Street looted all the banks, and that I was about to get the double whammy of my degrees suddenly becoming as worthless as dirt, and at the same time making me almost unemployable?

/and no, I’m not looking for sympathy - it was my own fault for being a stupid rube that fell for the lies of the snake oil salesmen of so-called ‘higher education’.


9 posted on 10/28/2013 5:19:26 AM PDT by Kriggerel ("All great truths are hard and bitter, but lies... are sweeter than wild honey" (Ragnar Redbeard))
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To: Netz

And the SAD part: most people are not suitable for college. Back in the late 70’s, when I was an undergrad, we lost ~40% of our freshmen by Junior year. That was EXPECTED.

Nowadays, trade schools are mostly gone, supplanted by Community Colleges, that STILL pad curricula with useless “distribution” requirements that are merely there to support departments and faculty headcount. . .


15 posted on 10/28/2013 5:42:56 AM PDT by Salgak (http://catalogoftehburningstoopid.blogspot.com 100% all-natural snark !)
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To: Netz
The big mistake goes back to the early 1970s, when shop classes were taken out of high schools. A lot of students who would've done much better in skilled trades than in college classes never even got to discover that. The reasoning was that regional vocational schools would fill that need, but it just hasn't worked that way. Then you've got junior colleges mostly into giving kids more academics, again when strictly vocational schools with courses included about running a business would be much more useful.

The way things are now, you've got unqualified and disinterested college students strangling job and education opportunities for those who belong there. Besides that, there aren't enough qualified to do real work.

Is college worth it? Not unless someone is paying the bill. Otherwise, it's best to take night courses, online courses, or whatever else ones budget can absorb. And learn a trade.

JMHO

42 posted on 10/28/2013 6:56:24 AM PDT by grania
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To: Netz

I could never understand why everyone has to go to college. Not everyone is qualified for college and parents having the money to send their off-springs to college does not guarantee that they have the brain that is needed. There are plenty of educated idiots around anyway


47 posted on 10/28/2013 7:10:55 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Netz

I know several electricians and plumbers that earn very good money, set their own hours, and will probably never run out of work. Just sayin’.


50 posted on 10/28/2013 7:39:57 AM PDT by cornfedcowboy
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