[righttackle44]

but it is BACKWARDS

it is Gutless Leaders and Effeminate Men that have caused the Destruction of America that God would punish us[.]

No, it is exactly correct. The symptom of ineffective leadership is described in Romans 1:18 and verses following, among many other symptoms of a society under judgment. Many people of that society suffer the reprobate mind--a supernatural condition that is laid on the people by God. The reprobate mind cannot understand spiritual truth and rejects godly principles.

We can see it moment-by-moment in our society today.

First comes judgment, and then come the symptoms of Romans 1:18 ff.

[Vaquero]

I refuse to lean on the bible to take care of secular issues.

we must kick some butt and remove the communists. the various churches need to back those who will do that.

unfortunately we have too many churches/temples who will try to help the criminals, their hearts bleed for the addicts, the illegal aliens, the faggots, the murderers who they spend and inordinate amount of energy preventing executions.