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Not so fast: Federal workers in Wisconsin must repay unemployment benefits
The Wisconsin Reporter ^ | 10-24-13 | Adam Tobias

Posted on 10/24/2013 7:03:48 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic

MADISON — Federal employees in Wisconsin apparently cannot have their cake and eat it, too.

What could be more than 2,000 furloughed workers who received back pay related to the 16-day partial government shutdown will have to reimburse any unemployment benefits that were applied for or collected during that time, Wisconsin Department of Workforce Development spokesman John Dipko said.

That total could be in excess of $245,000.

According to Dipko, nearly 2,070 federal employees in the Badger State filed claims for unemployment between Sept. 30 and Oct. 12.

The number of claims made last week were not available at the time of this report.

Documents provided by Dipko show the Unemployment Compensation for Federal Employees system paid out almost $250,000 to federal workers in Wisconsin between Sept. 29 and Saturday.

More money could potentially be on the way because Dipko said the time it takes to process and pay out a claim can vary.

“Some claimants may need to serve the statutorily-required waiting week before receiving benefits,” Dipko told Wisconsin Reporter in an email. “In other cases, employer wage reports may not be received right away.”

The minimum weekly unemployment insurance benefit rate is $54 and the maximum is $363, Dipko said.

However, state law requires any federal employee in Wisconsin to reimburse any overpaid financial assistance.

If they haven’t already, workers will be notified in writing of their obligation to repay extraneous benefits.

Dikpo said those employees shouldn’t be shocked when they are presented with the correspondence.

“We proactively advised claimants when they contacted us, for their own planning purposes, that they may have to repay benefits for claimed weeks if they receive back pay for those weeks,” Dipko added.

According to the unemployment insurance handbook, the overpayments automatically will be deducted from any future UI compensation.

But if other benefits will not be paid out at a later date, employees will have to pay of pocket, either in one lump sum or over several months. If a worker disagrees with the amount the employer has reported or the requirement to repay, they can file an objection, the handbook states.

If employees contend the overpayments is anyone’s guess, but what is known is that Wisconsin is not alone when it comes to this so-called “double-dipping.”

Federal workers in Illinois, Virginia and Kansas also will have to reimburse any unemployment benefits if they received back pay during the shutdown, Watchdog.org has learned.

But that is not the case in Oregon.

Officials in that state cannot require some federal employees to pay back unemployment benefits because of an administrative rule aimed at helping private sector workers on long layoffs, according to Craig Spivey, public information officer for the Oregon Employment Department.

With another possible government shutdown looming in a few months, Oregon is expected to take another look at that regulation, Spivey said.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: doubledip; reimburse; shutdown; wisconsinshowdown; workforce

PAY BACK: Federal workers in Wisconsin are required to repay any unemployment benefits that were received during the government shutdown.

1 posted on 10/24/2013 7:03:48 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic; Hunton Peck; Diana in Wisconsin; P from Sheb; Shady; DonkeyBonker; ...

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2 posted on 10/24/2013 7:04:30 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

They’ve probably already spend there benefits at Wal-Mart.


3 posted on 10/24/2013 7:05:20 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Excellent. Now how about those crooks who ran up their EBT cards a couple of weeks ago.


4 posted on 10/24/2013 7:06:02 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To win the country back, we need to be as mean as the Libs say we are.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Just out of idle curiosity, are there any federal workers paid on a weekly basis? I thought most were paid twice a month or monthly.

Which, if correct, means that no federal worker missed a paycheck at any point during the entire shutdown.


5 posted on 10/24/2013 7:07:57 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Unless afscme (if they’re unionized) or someone form seiu stirs the pot. One of my former work buddies who still works for the same contractor I used to work for was “furloughed” during the shut down and if he wants paid for the days off he’s gotta use vacation hours he had banked.


6 posted on 10/24/2013 7:08:24 AM PDT by rktman (Inergalactic background checks? King hussein you're first up.)
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To: fwdude

They didn’t need to spend the double dip money at Walmart.

They just used their food stamp cards when the limits were “glitched” off.


7 posted on 10/24/2013 7:12:36 AM PDT by dan on the right
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Soooooo.....the Feds are worried about $245,000 that some people may have received so that they didn’t go hungry but really have no real worry that we just pissed away $600 million on a website that an Atari Cartridge works better than.

$245,000/$600,000,000 = .0004


8 posted on 10/24/2013 7:13:11 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (Be the Enemy Within the Enemy Within...)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Years ago, I went to one of these state offices to actually look for a job because I was new to the area and unemployed. They were incredulous that I did NOT want to apply for unemployment first.

It was kind of funny, because after finally getting through all the Are you sure? screeners, they actually had a job referral for me. I called the company, was asked to drive out for an interview and started the next day. Yeah, it didn't pay that well, but it was about the easiest to get job I ever got.

I've heard that companies use state unemployment offices as a last resort when they can't find needed staff any other way. 90% of the applicants are looking for an excuse not to take the job but stay qualified for unemployment. The 10% who don't fit that profile have a very good chance of actually being hired.

9 posted on 10/24/2013 7:13:35 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: kingu

All DoD civilian employees are paid every two weeks. I don’t know for sure if there are any exemptions, but I doubt it.

Active duty military has the option for only end of month pay or to take half pay on the 15th and remaining half on the last day.


10 posted on 10/24/2013 7:15:06 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Fed workers in almost all states are required to pay back any unemployment they received (Oregon being one exception I heard about).

Some Fed employees who live closer to the margin did file for unemployment because 1) there was no plan for the back pay, and 2) no one knew how long the shutdown would go on. I haven’t heard anyone where I work talking about trying to keep it.

Net result was that for one pay period the check was about half, and the next was delayed.


11 posted on 10/24/2013 7:18:40 AM PDT by AbnSarge
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To: Eagle of Liberty

It’s not the Feds, it is the State of Wisconsin.


12 posted on 10/24/2013 7:18:59 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Eagle of Liberty
And I can't wait to read articles about Obama's Police re-collecting the BILLIONS mis-appropriated to Illegal Aliens.

Bungling bureaucrats dole out billions in tax credits to illegal immigrants

The “additional child tax credit” was created to help out those who make too little to qualify for the full child tax credit. The ACTC is refundable, meaning that even if the taxpayer doesn’t owe income tax, he or she could get a payout the IRS.

That becomes an avenue for fraud, particularly when combined with illegal immigrant workers, whose use of the tax credit has jumped from 796,000 filers in 2005 to 1.5 million in 2008 and 2.3 million in 2010, according to the IRS‘ official auditor.

The IRS has tried to limit how it issues ITINs, hoping to crack down on how much it pays out in fraudulent tax credits. The numbers are now valid for only five years, and require a stricter review of identity documents.

But abuses still abound for existing ITINs, Mr. North argues.

Investigators identified one address in Atlanta where 23,994 ITIN-related tax refunds were sent — including 8,393 refunds deposited to a single bank account. Mr. North said those were pretty good indications of fraud.

Yeah, like that will ever happen, but we're concerned about an average over-appropriation of $118 per federal employee.....SMH!!
13 posted on 10/24/2013 7:28:02 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (Be the Enemy Within the Enemy Within...)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
If anybody wants to know the definition of chutzpah...
14 posted on 10/24/2013 7:29:58 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: kingu
They missed one paycheck IF they were furloughed day one. I was furloughed the following Monday until the recall Thursday. Payday was today, it is as if it never happened.

On another note they pushed out all sorts of info on applying for unemployment. I took another path. I left Monday morning and went to work at a friends business and the school where I teach at night until the recall. I am one of those few with a work ethic I guess, but I get to keep the extra money...

15 posted on 10/24/2013 8:55:14 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Kind’a like a payday loan, but without the fees and interest. They should be grateful they got that paid vacation!


16 posted on 10/24/2013 9:59:14 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Eagle of Liberty
“so that they didn’t go hungry”

You have to be joking!

If missing one paycheck means you go hungry someone needs to take a look at their spending habits. I sure has hell don't want them working in the Federal government!

17 posted on 10/24/2013 10:07:22 AM PDT by kcvl
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