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Ban Halloween--Fair is Fair!
Dominion-Post ^ | 10/22/13 | Pastor Terry Hagedorn

Posted on 10/22/2013 5:24:37 AM PDT by Keli Kilohana

To The Editor:

The editorial comments, D-P 10/20/13, of Charles C. Haynes, the Director of Religious Freedom Center are absolutely right. Concerning a failed ban on Halloween in a Pennsylvania public school district, Mr. Haynes states, "...the media wouldn’t have to look hard to find many other districts that are moving away from Halloween-themed activities during the school day and either moving them to non-school hours or replacing them with “harvest festivals” without Halloween paraphernalia. This trend to de-emphasize Halloween in elementary schools isn’t driven by fear of First Amendment lawsuits — or, at least, it shouldn’t be. What’s actually pushing public schools to re-think Halloween is the recognition that growing numbers of Christian, Muslim and other religious parents are opting their kids out of Halloween celebrations at school. A judge may not see Halloween as “religious,” but many parents see activities involving images of witches, demons and ghosts as offensive to their faith. Non-religious objections to Halloween are also gaining traction in some school districts. Many educators want to reclaim time lost to Halloween activities during the school day. None of these objections matter much to Halloween enthusiasts, as the brouhaha in Pennsylvania illustrates. Their basic message seems to be “don’t spoil the fun for my kid.”

Furthermore, public and government offices violate the separation of religion and state for the fun of Halloween--meanwhile, Christmas joy is anathema! Let's treat pagans like we treat Christians. Fair is fair.

If Halloween lessons and activities disappeared tomorrow from the October curriculum, little of educational value would be lost. On the contrary, less Halloween could mean more time to teach something that really matters. The public school has banned Christmas, forbidden Hindu, Muslim and Jewish holy days. How hard could it be to do the same to the unholy Wiccan and Satanic Eve of the Day of the Dead activities?

Pastor Terry K. Hagedorn Calvary Baptist Church PO Box 282 Reedsville, WV Ph. 304-864-3870 MOUNTAIN MANNA, 96.7 FM, Sundays 9:30am http://mountainmanna.com

"Pointing Mountaineers to Mount Calvary."


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Fair is fair!
1 posted on 10/22/2013 5:24:37 AM PDT by Keli Kilohana
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To: Keli Kilohana

I hope not for a ban but a boycott of Halloween. It’s out of control nuts with the yard displays, adults in costume, etc. Harmless? Not to the pocketbook these days

Or maybe I’m just getting old. The more funerals I have to attend, the less I see anything funny or lighthearted about death, tombstones, coffins, skeletons, or ghosts.

Just another medieval festival from pagan days that has outlived its usefulness (go ahead & snark “Don’t you mean Christmas!!?”)


2 posted on 10/22/2013 5:35:15 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: Keli Kilohana

Guy across the street used to give out pamphlets to kids on Halloween saying they would go to hell because of their pagan practices.

Now whose house do you think got egged.

Later years he gave out treats with the pamphlets. Treats got eaten. Pamphlets got trashed.

Let the kids have their fun. That’s all it is. Kid fun. Look for demons in the demonrat party.


3 posted on 10/22/2013 5:36:15 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Keli Kilohana
Every year , how evil Halloween is. I'm sick of it. If you don't like it, don't celebrate it. But don't presume to tell others what they can or cannot do. You just sound like democrats then.

CC

4 posted on 10/22/2013 5:37:31 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (tease not the dragon for thou art crunchy when roasted and taste good with ketchup)
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To: Keli Kilohana
Dress Your Child Up As A Journalist This Halloween


5 posted on 10/22/2013 5:38:52 AM PDT by Iron Munro (When a killer screams 'Allahu Akbar' you don't need to be mystified about a motive.)
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To: Keli Kilohana

Nuts!!!!

Halloween is a uniquely American holiday with no serious religious connections!!

I love it!!


6 posted on 10/22/2013 5:39:45 AM PDT by ZULU (Impeach that Bastard Barrack Hussein Obama)
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To: elcid1970

you forgot what it was like to be a kid. unfortunate.


7 posted on 10/22/2013 5:41:59 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Keli Kilohana

In typical American fashion, we have turned what was the scariest night of the year to medieval pagans and the superstitious, into an excuse for a party. Gotta love America.


8 posted on 10/22/2013 5:42:39 AM PDT by Daveinyork (IER)
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To: Vaquero
If the pamphlets were jack chick comics his house deserved to get egged. they are one of the most mean spirited , angry things I've ever read.

CC

9 posted on 10/22/2013 5:47:51 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (tease not the dragon for thou art crunchy when roasted and taste good with ketchup)
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To: Keli Kilohana
government offices violate the separation of religion and state

There is no such thing in the Constitution.

10 posted on 10/22/2013 5:50:53 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (The "government" is nothing but a RAT jobs program)
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To: Celtic Conservative

I don’t know. They were crumpled and trashed without much of a look see.


11 posted on 10/22/2013 5:53:57 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Keli Kilohana
Ask the good pastor Hagedorn where he finds this: Furthermore, public and government offices violate the separation of religion and state for the fun of Halloween in the U.S. Constitution?

Sorry to be picky.

5.56mm

12 posted on 10/22/2013 5:54:46 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: elcid1970

Death is part of life. While I don’t seek death, I am not afraid of it either.

As a infantryman in combat, paratrooper, construction worker, EMT, and now a heart attack survivor, I have seen death close up and personal.

Halloween is not real. It is make believe, it is fun. It helps children overcome some of their fear of the scary and unknown. And Halloween can be fun for all ages.

So I suggest you do not participate in the tradition, turn off your porch light, go into a back room of your home and be happy no one will bother you.

Have a happy Halloween


13 posted on 10/22/2013 5:57:38 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (I do not doubt that our climate changes. I only doubt that anything man does has any effect.)
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To: Celtic Conservative

That’s kinda like saying professional wrestlers are mean to each other.


14 posted on 10/22/2013 6:02:26 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: Vaquero

“Let the kids have their fun. That’s all it is. Kid fun. Look for demons in the demonrat party.”

That’s the point. The demonrats will allow pagan celebrations in the schools but nothing is to be mentioned about Christian holidays.


15 posted on 10/22/2013 6:02:56 AM PDT by raybbr (I weep over my sons' future in this Godforsaken country.)
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To: elcid1970

I never involved the kids in halloween. Fortunately, we lived out in the country, so it was no big deal.

I had a friend in the city who put three tombstones on her front lawn every halloween, along with her other ghoulish decorations - with her 3 kid’s names on them. I was stunned when I saw it. Couldn’t imagine doing that.


16 posted on 10/22/2013 6:04:57 AM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: elcid1970
Are we afraid now to cause emotional injury (as we did with the Redskin caper) to witches, goblins and ghosts now?

I feel for your losses, for people who you knew who have departed but one way living humanity tries to cope with the inevitable death watch and things that, deep down we are scared of, is to openly laugh at it and make fun of the spooks. It's one way of coping with our internal terror and it seems to work well as we collect candy (do they still collect for that corrupt UN organization, UNICEF?), eat it and celebrate life and silliness.

So, take it in stride friend. If we actually do begin banning holidays like Halloween, then I think we have reached a pathetic low in our civilization.

17 posted on 10/22/2013 6:05:35 AM PDT by Netz
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To: Vaquero

The big problem with Halloween is that it seems to be the last religious holiday standing in many school districts. That’s not exactly the best message.


18 posted on 10/22/2013 6:06:41 AM PDT by Ingtar (The NSA - "We're the only part of government who actually listens to the people.")
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To: Vaquero

After that, did his house still get egged?


19 posted on 10/22/2013 6:08:26 AM PDT by Netz
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To: ZULU

...what about Thanksgiving? That is uniquely American and has lost the thanking the creator for our bounty aspect, hasn’t it?
Now people eat, drink and flip through the massive Black Friday shopping deals coming up.

The base used to be quasi-religious, now? Not sure.


20 posted on 10/22/2013 6:10:55 AM PDT by Netz
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