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Docs worried sick over ObamaCare
The New York Post ^ | October 18, 2013 | Carl Campanile

Posted on 10/19/2013 5:50:15 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

New York doctors are feeling queasy about ObamaCare — and many won’t participate in the new national insurance program because they fear they’ll go broke, The Post has learned.

“ObamaCare is going to send me more patients to see and then cut the payments to provide the care — that’s what’s going to happen,” predicted Donald Moore, a primary-care doctor in Prospect Heights, Brooklyn. “I will not accept it.”

Moore claims that President Obama made a big mistake by requiring uninsured residents to obtain medical coverage from for-profit insurers through the ObamaCare health exchanges instead of through public health programs like Medicaid.

Under tremendous pressure to keep costs down and profits up, Moore said he’s concerned that commercial insurers will pay doctors less for patient visits and services than either Medicaid or Medicare.

Many doctors, he argues, won’t be able to cover their costs with such skimpy fees.

Moore scoffed, “Who’s going to sustain the losses? The insurance companies? It’s basically going to be a race to the bottom.”(continued)

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: economy; medicaid; medicare; obamacare; socializedmedicine; unemployment
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1 posted on 10/19/2013 5:50:16 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It’s basically going to be a race to the bottom.”

Well, the good news is the bottom is bottomless."

2 posted on 10/19/2013 5:52:08 PM PDT by deadrock (I am someone else.)
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To: deadrock
"It’s basically going to be a race to the bottom.”"

The Death Panels should be able to fix that.

3 posted on 10/19/2013 5:53:55 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You doctors are our bitches now.

So suck on that. :)

/sarc(???)


4 posted on 10/19/2013 5:54:10 PM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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5 posted on 10/19/2013 5:54:11 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You will no longer attract the brightest minds to the profession anymore, either. I certainly don’t want the 115 IQ types diagnosing me.


6 posted on 10/19/2013 5:55:32 PM PDT by ransacked
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Moore claims that President Obama made a big mistake by requiring uninsured residents to obtain medical coverage from for-profit insurers through the ObamaCare health exchanges instead of through public health programs like Medicaid.

Careful with that, Doc. The Marxist-in-Chief might decide that all doctors should just work directly for the government.

7 posted on 10/19/2013 5:57:31 PM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And I’m sure this Obamacare plan has rates doctors and hospitals must follow.


8 posted on 10/19/2013 5:57:32 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
how many of them voted for the POS???
9 posted on 10/19/2013 5:57:52 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: ransacked

My sister graduated Pre med from Stanford with honors and went into another field. She is brilliant and caring but was unwilling to enter slavery.


10 posted on 10/19/2013 5:58:26 PM PDT by MattinNJ (It's over Johnny. The America you knew is gone. Denial serves no purpose.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Those who think that signing up for ObammyCare is tough, wait until they try to make an appointment to see a doctor when the SEIU thugs decide to go on strike. The Feds and their union zombies are running your healthcare now. Good luck!


11 posted on 10/19/2013 5:58:35 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Hold on to your sombrero! Here comes amnesty! The GOP is on a roll!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

As if docs aren’t already going through hell with liability insurance now they got to deal with this BS. They got John Edwards on one side and communism on the other. I was talking to a obstetrician last year, $300,000 a year liability insurance he was paying. Is that freakin’ nuts or what?


12 posted on 10/19/2013 5:58:49 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (What do we want? Time travel. When do we want it? It's irrelevant.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Thanks Susan Collins for getting Obamacare out of committee.

Thanks "Chief" Justice Roberts for pulling something out of your @ss and turning this unconstitutional POS into a "tax."

Thanks Republican establishment for ganging up Cruz and Lee and not fighting to defund Obamacare.

Thanks 52% of dumbass, LIV voters who took the time away from playing Halo and munching on Cheetos to vote for this fraud again in 2012.

13 posted on 10/19/2013 5:59:08 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Governor Sarah Heath Palin for President of the United States in 2016)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The buffoons in Congress get to keep their “Cadillac of healthcare plans”. The unwashed masses get ObamaCare. The Edsel of health insurance plans.


14 posted on 10/19/2013 6:01:52 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Hold on to your sombrero! Here comes amnesty! The GOP is on a roll!)
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To: Tzimisce

Heh, you think that there will be Doctors? Who are you kidding, who would want to be a Doctor and who would want to even continue in medicine under these conditions.. We are doomed to third world medicine in 10 years! Count on it!

Heaven can not even help this catastrophe! Don’t forget to thank the Democrats for this...


15 posted on 10/19/2013 6:02:52 PM PDT by Deagle (m)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

BUMP!


16 posted on 10/19/2013 6:03:12 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Every doctor should say FUBO. I’ll treat the immediate ones but that the last ones. Then let’s see what Bath House Barry does.


17 posted on 10/19/2013 6:05:01 PM PDT by Digger
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What’s going to happen is what just happened to my wife’s doctor. She just resigned from her medical group, is opening a private practice, and isn’t taking insurance.


18 posted on 10/19/2013 6:05:22 PM PDT by MrShoop
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To: FlingWingFlyer
that's not particulary fair to EDSEL..../s

at least the Edsel have the Decency to Disappear after a few short years....while obamacare may be taking us all to Edselville
19 posted on 10/19/2013 6:06:02 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Un-Documented Journalist / Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
New York doctors are feeling queasy about ObamaCare

My Urologist is pissed.

20 posted on 10/19/2013 6:06:37 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Deagle

Oh - well you’re just a racist who doesn’t like seeing a black man in charge.

/sarc(???)


21 posted on 10/19/2013 6:06:56 PM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Thanks for the 0Care nutshell recap.

My doc is retiring early, due to 0Care :(

22 posted on 10/19/2013 6:07:17 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: Deagle

It’s really hard for me to feel sorry for doctors in New York City.

I’m guessing most doctors who live there are as liberal as they come - they just don’t like Obamacare.

It’s like voting for Goebbels because Hitler’s too radical.


23 posted on 10/19/2013 6:08:32 PM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: Tzimisce

Heh, I did have to laugh out loud at that comment - thank you! Sometimes it is really good to laugh at the situation!


24 posted on 10/19/2013 6:09:47 PM PDT by Deagle (m)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In the San Antonio area, there seems to be a Doc-in-the-Box/diagnostics center/specialty clinic on every corner.


25 posted on 10/19/2013 6:09:49 PM PDT by Sarajevo (Don't think for a minute that this excuse for a President has America's best interest in mind.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Democrats are missing the “Opportunity Cost” gene. They just can’t understand the concept.

The more money the government takes in taxes to hire your sister for a government job, the less money people have to buy a car from your car salesman brother. Pretty soon, your brother is out of a job. Then the car company can’t sell their cars, so they shutdown. The government stops receiving the tax money from your brother and the employees at the car company. The Democrat’s solution? Hire your other sister to a government job.


26 posted on 10/19/2013 6:10:13 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Tzimisce

Heh, don’t worry your heart at all, those Doctors will be gone before you can click your fingers...


27 posted on 10/19/2013 6:11:36 PM PDT by Deagle (m)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Thanks Susan Collins for getting Obamacare out of committee.

"Credit" where "credit" is due. That was Olympia Snowe.

Though she voted against it inn the Senate, she voted it out of committee because she thought it was "important enough to be debated on the floor".

Thanks. Thanks a lot...

28 posted on 10/19/2013 6:14:07 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: Sarajevo

Wow, you must be reading liberal literature... Us Veterans can’t even imagine such care... who are you talking about anyway, the illigals? Well, they do get care before the citizens so I guess you are right there...


29 posted on 10/19/2013 6:14:34 PM PDT by Deagle (m)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
My advice: eat healthy, exercise, don't get sick.
30 posted on 10/19/2013 6:15:32 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I couldn't count the number of FReepers who predicted this in great detail before this obamanation was made law.
31 posted on 10/19/2013 6:16:15 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Thanks Susan Collins for getting Obamacare out of committee.

I think that was actually Olympia Snowe who was chased out of office.

32 posted on 10/19/2013 6:16:23 PM PDT by what's up
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Some MDs are thrilled with the ACA.


33 posted on 10/19/2013 6:16:53 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Health ins? Sure.

Health care? Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!

34 posted on 10/19/2013 6:19:13 PM PDT by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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To: Deagle
Heaven can not even help this catastrophe!

Heaven may decide to let this catastrophe run its course, but if Heaven mercifully decides to intervene, no power on earth is a match for it. Heaven can always help.

35 posted on 10/19/2013 6:19:14 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
The key phrase in the article is found in the third paragraph from the bottom:

Emblem Health said a payment plan was in place for medical providers who are part of its ObamaCare plans

36 posted on 10/19/2013 6:20:21 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Down with HUACA (Hussein's UnAffordable Care Act)


37 posted on 10/19/2013 6:20:27 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Deagle
We are doomed to third world medicine in 10 years!

So what? It'll be free! /s

38 posted on 10/19/2013 6:20:57 PM PDT by NJRighty ("It's sick out there and getting sicker" - Bob Grant)
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To: Tzimisce; Revolting cat!
Oh - well you’re just a racist who doesn’t like seeing a black man in charge.

"You're terrified that everyone will ACTUALLY LIKE IT!!!"


39 posted on 10/19/2013 6:22:02 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The combination of high deductibles and reduced physician participation means that patients will seldom reach their deductible. Paying out of pocket to non-participating providers will probably not go towards the deductible in most cases.
It’s a windfall tax for the Feds and a windfall profit for the crony insurance company.
And you bet that all participating hospitals and clinics will require the deductible payment up front especially because the rates will be low and margins will be tight. Hospitals, doctors, and clinics are not going to waste efforts on collections when you consider that the newly insured 0-care people will be middle to lower income and poorer credit risks. So if you need a hip replacement that costs 75k, and your deductible is 5k, that’s the margin, so pay up or no hip.
By the middle of next year, people on 0-care will really feel the pinch.


40 posted on 10/19/2013 6:23:07 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. New US economy: Fascism on top, Socialism on the bottom.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You mean all those smart looking people in white lab coats wearing stethoscopes standing behind the prez when he rolled out this monstrosity were just actors? I’m shocked, shocked I tell ya.


41 posted on 10/19/2013 6:23:28 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Jane Long
Fortunately, our company is keeping it's plan, so I have a stay of execution for maybe 1-2 years.

I just feel bad for those who got dropped and are being told to purchase off the "exchanges."

I'll never sign up for Obamacare. I'm not even going to the website or clicking on any related links. Obamacare mail goes straight into the shredder.

42 posted on 10/19/2013 6:25:50 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Governor Sarah Heath Palin for President of the United States in 2016)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Doctor, Obamacare called, these need to be filled-out before they can pay you.
43 posted on 10/19/2013 6:26:00 PM PDT by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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To: MrShoop
What’s going to happen is what just happened to my wife’s doctor. She just resigned from her medical group, is opening a private practice, and isn’t taking insurance.

Guarantee, the government will shut down those kind of operations.
44 posted on 10/19/2013 6:28:01 PM PDT by Old Yeller (Obama: A dark spot in this country's history.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Fortunately, our company is keeping it's plan, so I have a stay of execution for maybe 1-2 years.

Are you really certain you're going to make it past the first renewal date in 2014?

45 posted on 10/19/2013 6:28:14 PM PDT by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: ransacked

After most of the good doc leave, you will be examined and diagnosed by 100 IQ types. Those types will be members in good standing of the SEIU. That was also part of the plan.


46 posted on 10/19/2013 6:29:18 PM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: steve86

I hope so. I know that I’m good for 2014 itself. 2015 might be a different story.


47 posted on 10/19/2013 6:32:06 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Governor Sarah Heath Palin for President of the United States in 2016)
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To: Maine Mariner
After most of the good doc leave, you will be examined and diagnosed by 100 IQ types.

The proper reaction is to be grateful you didn't get the 80 IQ types.

48 posted on 10/19/2013 6:34:03 PM PDT by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: steve86

" What I'd do, is just like... ha ha... like... aha... you know, like, you know what I mean, like... haha..."

49 posted on 10/19/2013 6:35:48 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: steve86

Excellent!


50 posted on 10/19/2013 6:36:15 PM PDT by Maine Mariner
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