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But Congress isn't a company - it's Big Government - and we're carrying the costs of their subsidies - it's billed to us. Let Congress and their staffs (many who are married to media people, consultants and members of the other party, etc, etc) "enjoy" the fruits of Big Government -- use it, pay for it (just like we have been set up) and then see why it must go.

Small Mom and Pop businesses, who employ a majority of American workers (at least they used to until Obamacare came on the scene - so those numbers may have slipped) are being strangled by this latest Big government dictate.

So the final insult (well I'm sure there will be many more insults from this administration) is that the country class has to subsidize healthcare costs for the political class, the ones who locked the Obamacare yoke on necks (and our children's and grandchildren's).

Obamacare is killing the U.S. economy.

1 posted on 10/16/2013 12:52:19 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

While baseball is in commercials, I switch around a bit, and invariably take note of all these talking heads who are “just baffled” about the budget “impasse.”

It never seems to occur to any of them that maybe if Obama didn’t flush money down the crapper with a steam shovel none of this would be happening.


2 posted on 10/16/2013 1:01:22 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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The RINO asshats that fell out of line are responsible for this narrative. # them! Start organizing to run the bastards out of town now!


6 posted on 10/16/2013 1:44:45 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

these dummies dont realize that OBAMA’S cia/NSA/etc can provide him with summaries of the repubicans communications...its why BRAZIL wrent nuts how do they negotiate with OBAMA when he has every word they say among themselves....the republicans are so dumb, cry baby barbag boehner is acting like he has something to hide that they know about

OBAMA doesnt have to negotiate when he knows what their plan is ,follow the NSA


7 posted on 10/16/2013 1:49:38 AM PDT by Understand the stimulus
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Obamacare is doing just as planned, strangling the economy. The house is doing as the Constitution empowers them to defund obamacare. If they give up this power to defund we are done. .


9 posted on 10/16/2013 1:59:35 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

If it’s good enough for us, it’s good enough for them.
Period.


12 posted on 10/16/2013 2:17:08 AM PDT by stilloftyhenight (TEA baby! Let's roll!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"Obamacare is killing the U.S. economy."

Obama is killing the U.S. economy and with the help of the LSM He is able to blame it on the Republicans. Of course the RINOS are helping.
It is sickening to watch.

15 posted on 10/16/2013 2:34:34 AM PDT by DeaconRed (The TEA PARTY is my new party. Juan Mclaim and his Republican party can kiss my Grits.)
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Just in time for halloween . . .


18 posted on 10/16/2013 3:36:56 AM PDT by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

to kill the economy obama has to first kill the Congress
That is what this is about

a potus power grab of powers reserved to the Congress

he never did need no steekin’ Constitution
Just dingy Harry, a lap dog MEdia, a shady bunch running CIA/NSA/HHS and Justice Dept, and legion of ideological bureaucrat minions


19 posted on 10/16/2013 3:56:23 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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However, if we yield to the rats, there will be an instant Constitution Crisis. Of course the Constitution means nothing to Herr Obozo and his facist cabinet and insiders:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3079233/posts

Congressman: ‘Constitutional Crisis’ if GOP Caves on Debt Ceiling
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Go ^ | 15 October 2013 | Matthew Boyle

Posted on Tuesday, October 15, 2013 10:34:02 AM by 11th_VA

On the House floor on Monday, Rep. Tom McClintock (R-CA) argued that President Barack Obama’s activities during the government shutdown over Obamacare are a sign to him that Obama would act nefariously to attack the full faith and credit of the United States of America by taking the country into a default in a debt ceiling crisis if the president does not get everything he wants in negotiations.

“Given the ruthless and vindictive way the shutdown has been handled, I now believe that this president would willfully act to destroy the full faith and credit of the United States unless the Congress acquiesces to all of his demands, at least as long as he sees political advantage in doing so,” McClintock said in a speech on the floor of the House of Representatives. “If the Republicans acquiesce, immediate crisis will quickly vanish, credit markets will calm and public life will return to other matters. But a fundamental element of our Constitution will have been destroyed. The power of the purse will have shifted from the representatives of the people to the executive. The executive bureaucracies will be freed to churn out ever more outlandish regulations with no effective congressional review or check through the purse. A perilous era will have begun in which the president sets spending levels and vetoes any bill falling short of his demands. Whenever a deadline approaches, one house can simply refuse to negotiate with the other until Congress is faced with the Hobson’s choice of a shutdown or a default. The nation’s spending will again dangerously accelerate. The deficit


26 posted on 10/16/2013 7:36:28 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Boycott Reno & Las Vegas until those in control there, remove Reid from the senate!)
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The reality of a real debt limit:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3076090/posts?page=1

The Debt Ceiling is the Law of the Land
redstate.com ^ | 10/6/13 | Daniel Horowitz
Posted on Monday, October 07, 2013 6:07:28 PM by cotton1706

Over the past few weeks, Democrats have indicated that they have no intention of negotiating over Obamacare, opting instead to shut down the government. They are justifying their obstinacy by asserting that Obamacare is the law of the land. Well, if that is the game they want to play, we should return the favor with the debt ceiling. The debt ceiling, pursuant to the Second Liberty Bond Act of 1917, is the law of the land. And it has been so for far longer than Obamacare.

Throughout this debate over funding Obamacare in the budget bill, House GOP leaders have stressed how the debt ceiling was the more appropriate means of fighting Obamacare. After all, it was “the next fight.” But as if on cue, some Republicans are already using the same Democrat talking points about the risk of default.

We are going to hear this erroneous talking point propagated by both parties over the next few weeks, so let’s put the myth to rest. The only way we default on the debt is if we fail to pay the interest on the public debt. According to the updated budget projection from the CBO, interest on the debt will be roughly $237 billion for 2014. Thanks to the short-term revenue benefits of the fiscal cliff and Obamacare tax hikes, the federal government is expected to rake in a record $3.042 trillion from the private economy this year.

Let’s engage in a simple math exercise. $3.042 trillion – $237 billion = $2.805 trillion. As long as the Treasury pays the first $237 billion in revenue to the shareholders of our debt, there will be no default, and we will have $2.805 trillion left to spend. Again, default is taken off the table. Discussion over.

What do you do with the remaining funds? You start funding core functions of government and those programs that people are already dependent on.

Social Security (retirement and disability) – $848 billion
Medicare – $505 billion
Medicaid – $298 billion
Defense – $582 billion
Veterans – $83 billion

Those expenditures account for roughly $2.3 trillion. The remaining half trillion can be prioritized as needed for other functions related to homeland security, national parks, or any other limited function.

Hence, the debt ceiling is a built-in balanced budget mechanism. If Democrats want to fund other functions of government, they need to commit to a balanced budget. If they want to fund the HHS and the IRS, they need to get rid of Obamacare. If they want to fund the EPA, they need to get rid of the war on coal.

The power of the purse manifest in the House of Representatives, in conjunction with the debt ceiling law, reflects democracy at work, especially with divided government. It’s time we stop peddling the myth of default, and start using our leverage to restore constitutional government and bring relief to those who are losing jobs and suffering from the high cost of living engendered by the harmful activities of the unconstitutional aspects of government.


27 posted on 10/16/2013 7:37:13 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Boycott Reno & Las Vegas until those in control there, remove Reid from the senate!)
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