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New device harnesses sun and sewage to produce hydrogen fuel
R&D Magazine ^ | 10/11/2013 | none listed

Posted on 10/13/2013 4:49:24 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog

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1 posted on 10/13/2013 4:49:25 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Wonder Warthog
If that’s true, that cesspool known as Washington DC should be able to provide us with an unlimited source of energy.
2 posted on 10/13/2013 4:54:55 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: Wonder Warthog

Too bad those thousands of politcians and White Hut occupants couldn’t be fed into a machine that will propel our vehicles.

Wonder what boondoggle will evolve from this discovery?


3 posted on 10/13/2013 4:58:15 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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“Wonder what boondoggle will evolve from this discovery?”

Certainly it must be a strategy of “clean energy” scientists to put out press releases that create over-excitement and fawning press coverage, all with the ultimate goal of securing more government grant money. My guess is that most of these ideas are completely impractical or unworkable when scaled up.


4 posted on 10/13/2013 5:06:48 AM PDT by BlueStateRightist
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A communal crapping ground. Household toilets will be forbidden, unless you're in the ruling class of course. Everyone else will have to use the communal loo or at least be required to haul pee & poo to the depository.

It's for the children and the Earth Mother, so you better get in line and do it right or else.

5 posted on 10/13/2013 5:12:25 AM PDT by csvset
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Sounds like a self-sustainable power/waste disposal system for cities. Anything to get us to local control of energy would be a good thing. Therefore this invention will go the way of the Doe Doe bird.


6 posted on 10/13/2013 5:14:42 AM PDT by WVNan
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To: Wonder Warthog

———an average rate of 0.05 m3/day———

Hmmmm......


7 posted on 10/13/2013 5:20:16 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: Wonder Warthog

I suppose they will institute “crap credits”.


8 posted on 10/13/2013 5:27:41 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Gun Control is the Key to totalitarianism and genocide.)
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To: AlaskaErik
"If that’s true, that cesspool known as Washington DC should be able to provide us with an unlimited source of energy."

True. But it would be so much more satisfying to burn the bureaucrats and politicians directly, even though that energy supply wouldn't last as long.

9 posted on 10/13/2013 5:27:55 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Wonder Warthog

I’d like a tank of sewage and a bright sunny day please!


10 posted on 10/13/2013 5:28:19 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: BlueStateRightist
"My guess is that most of these ideas are completely impractical or unworkable when scaled up."

Often true. As Sturgeon's Law puts it "90% of everything is crap". But you've gotta do the research to find the 10% that are good ideas.

11 posted on 10/13/2013 5:30:05 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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I suppose they will institute “crap credits”.

LOL! Why not? They’ll come up with any bogus notion to tax.


12 posted on 10/13/2013 5:32:41 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: csvset
"A communal crapping ground. Household toilets will be forbidden, unless you're in the ruling class of course. Everyone else will have to use the communal loo or at least be required to haul pee & poo to the depository."

Any community above a certain size already has that. It's called "a sewer system". And those work just fine with "household toilets". But treating the wastes from those systems is not free.

13 posted on 10/13/2013 5:33:16 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: WVNan
"Sounds like a self-sustainable power/waste disposal system for cities. Anything to get us to local control of energy would be a good thing. Therefore this invention will go the way of the Doe Doe bird.

Waste treatment costs cities and towns a LOT. If the waste treatment part has even reasonable efficiency, it can offset (or maybe even eliminate) those costs, and put out energy at the same time.

14 posted on 10/13/2013 5:35:28 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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"Hmmmm......"

Not unreasonable for the small lab cell they tested (pic is at original article link). Next step is to test the scaling laws of the system with their forty liter prototype.

15 posted on 10/13/2013 5:37:03 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: csvset

Its called a sewage treatment plant.


16 posted on 10/13/2013 5:43:37 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: Wonder Warthog

What do they plan to do with the hydrogen?


17 posted on 10/13/2013 5:48:59 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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"What do they plan to do with the hydrogen?"

I would guess that they would probably use it in a fuel cell to generate electricity. It is, after all, the perfect fuel for such cells. Just making the wastewater plant "energy self supporting" would be a major plus in the budget of pretty much any city of size. If the overall process turns out not to produce "sludge" or even reduces the amount of same that has to be disposed of as solid waste would be another significant plus.

I think the correct way to look at this is as a way to make wastewater treatment much more efficient/less costly, not as a major energy producer.

18 posted on 10/13/2013 5:58:04 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Wonder Warthog

It won’t work.
They will try to use genetically modified microorganisms.

No No GMO!


19 posted on 10/13/2013 6:01:41 AM PDT by Zuse
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To: Wonder Warthog
I built a biological solar cell in 1978 while in college. It used halobacteria, which is a completely different mechanism than what these folks are describing. I'll leave it with the point that scale up to some thing viable both mechanically and commercially is a mighty tall mountain to climb.

IMHO, if this process goes farther than a lab curiosity,, it will main be because it is used as a pretty bauble attract varieties of grant funds.

20 posted on 10/13/2013 6:07:47 AM PDT by Hootowl99
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