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GOP's biggest misunderstanding about Obamacare-think it will be universal. Problem is the opposite
Salon ^ | October 10, 2013 | Adam Gaffney

Posted on 10/12/2013 5:40:15 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I love when some moron reveals some big secret to the world that everybody, except the fellow morons he travels with, already knows.

We know it's "not universal health care" it just wants to be when it grows up and runs every effing aspect of everybody effing life.

It's the first crank of the vise.

21 posted on 10/12/2013 7:15:54 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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Obama is to healthcare what Stalin was to Ukrainian agriculture. The idea is that the system is perfect but the people are flawed. While millions starved in the Ukraine, Stalin believed it was because they were resisting change or were just counter-revolutionary. Regardless of how much damage and pain Obamacare inflicts in terms of job loss, increased costs and degradation of services, fault in the fundamental plan will never be considered.


22 posted on 10/12/2013 10:17:20 PM PDT by Spok
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; SunkenCiv; nuconvert
This is the big problem:

The US currently spends 17.9% of its total GDP on health services
http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SH.XPD.TOTL.ZS

This figure is projected to rise in the near future by about another 1% due to the population’s aging and a further 3% due to the growing incidence of chronic illnesses. Anticipated increases would raise the nation’s healthcare costs to an unsustainable 22% of GDP, crowding out spending for other goods and services.
By contrast, the Netherlands spends 12% of its GDP on healthcare; Switzerland, Germany, France, and Canada about 11%; New Zealand 10%; Sweden 9.4%; and the United Kingdom 9.3%. As we travel through these countries, there is frequently a clear, if anecdotal, perception that people are healthier than in the US.

And the data backs up that perception. The US spends more money on healthcare because we are in fact far less healthy on average than the rest of the developed world. This difference is in large part due to poor lifestyle choices, but the good news is there are programs that have clearly and conclusively demonstrated that this difference is reversible. Changing behavior, while it will be difficult, can result in significant cost savings. In fact, changing behavior may allow us to spend more on education, social programs, and even defense. http://www.mauldineconomics.com/editorial/thoughts-from-the-frontline-the-road-to-a-new-medical-order

A target would be around 10 %.

23 posted on 10/13/2013 4:17:26 AM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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This is a link to the complete article http://www.investorsinsight.com/blogs/thoughts_from_the_frontline/archive/2013/10/07/the-road-to-a-new-medical-order.aspx


24 posted on 10/13/2013 4:28:45 AM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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