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On Letters From Climate Change Deniers
Los Angeles Times ^ | October 8, 2013 | Paul Thornton

Posted on 10/10/2013 6:12:01 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
The sad part about this is that the warm up to this nonsense happened in the 1970’s, with the scientific fraud Paul R. Ehrlich and his “population bomb”, proclaiming that the world was soon to be destroyed by population growth, and that by the 1980s, half the world would be starving........

Even sadder......his off and on again co-author John P. Holdren has been Barack Obama's one and only top White House Science and Technology Adviser.

21 posted on 10/10/2013 9:07:53 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Scrambler Bob

The oceans are pretty good solar arrays, absorbing a great deal of the light that gets to them. Of course the Arctic, when frozen over, reflects.

Compared to the surface area of the oceans.

If you twiddle with Lorenz’s simple model, you can sometimes get it to degenerate, that is the oscilation may decrease over time, and eventually damps out.

There is a earth state that corresponds to that. If it gets really cold, or the sun output decreases (or we move further out in our orbit) the water on the earth freezes, and the white snow, white ice, and white clouds reflect most of the sun’s radiation. Global Cooling.

The fraction of the earth’s reflected energy is the albedo (from Latin Albus, whiteness). We manipulate the local albedo to try to assure that runways at Thule Greenland are suitable in warmer weather.


22 posted on 10/10/2013 10:03:10 AM PDT by donmeaker (The lessons of Weimar are soon to be relearned.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; All

When it comes to promoting pseudoscience, people like Dr. Michael Mann are more dangerous than semiliterates like “Dr.” Kent Hovind and “Dr.” Carl Baugh. Why? Because unlike those two, Michael Mann knows what makes an idea scientific and is knowingly peddling pseudoscience (climate catastrophism) in order to expand the Cathedral’s unelected power (which Michael Mann is a member of).

Now I know that Carl Baugh and Kent Hovind are dishonest too, but they’re dishonest in a stupid way. In contrast, Michael Mann is dishonest in a sort of intelligent devilish way.


23 posted on 10/10/2013 10:15:21 AM PDT by R7 Rocket (The Cathedral is Sovereign, you're not. Unfortunately, the Cathedral is crazy.)
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To: Scrambler Bob
Actually I do not want to see the modeling. I contend that these ‘modelers’ do not know what they are talking about!

That is the truth. They continue to ignore volcanic heat input under the oceans even though we just discovered the largest volcano in the solar system under the pacific near Japan. Then the idiots claim that volcanic heat input can be ignored because it is insignificant when compared to the heat input from the sun.

So an underwater volcanic eruption occurring near the north pole in winter time is insignificant ?

24 posted on 10/10/2013 12:15:52 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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25 posted on 10/10/2013 12:38:57 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Major brain damage at UMES, but no property damage!)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%
Average temperatures are already down a degree

Some places or timescales, maybe. But the correct statement about temperatures like this:

is that temperatures have been flat for going on 17 years.

26 posted on 10/10/2013 4:22:14 PM PDT by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change -- a body made up of the world's top climate scientists

Nope. Not even close. A bunch of political hacks and self-serving grant seekers. And "peer review"? After seeing what goes on behind the scenes (in the Climategate e-mails), how can anyone believe that peer review is in any way meaningful.

27 posted on 10/10/2013 6:35:42 PM PDT by Rocky (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. George Orwell)
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To: Gondring
Uh....

You could start here.

29 posted on 10/11/2013 7:50:49 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: tumblindice
But the author is right. It is gradually getting colder each day here in IN. And the days are getting shorter as they pass; we’re doomed, I fear.

And at the current rate of change, in just three years daily temperatures will average -150F, and it will be dark 24 hours a day! Somebody get the government involved, quick!

30 posted on 10/11/2013 12:19:56 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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