Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

To: sickoflibs

This is what should have happened the first time the petulant President screwed over Boehner in negotiations and he capitulated with tears to 0bama.

I hope, sincerely hope, Boehner and gang is learning something as well from this. 0bama and the democrats cannot have unbridled power. We, yes WE, are the check and balance against such tyranny.

Are we going to ‘win’ this? I don’t believe so in the sense that many here want to see the ‘win.’ But long-term this is showing the public that they are not dealing with a President that is out to help our Nation.

But then, was any of this ever really about 0bamacare or is it about stopping the progressive agenda?


11 posted on 10/08/2013 5:20:31 AM PDT by EBH ( The Day of the Patriot has arrived.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies ]


To: EBH; stephenjohnbanker; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3; Impy; NFHale; BillyBoy; ...
RE :”Are we going to ‘win’ this? I don’t believe so in the sense that many here want to see the ‘win.’ But long-term this is showing the public that they are not dealing with a President that is out to help our Nation.”

Here's how I define winning(it also defines losing) and it applies to both sides.

Winning is :
a) Getting the other side to give in on your policy preferences and get them into law, it either happens due to immediate public pressure or from 'b' .
You get what you want and the other side steps out of the way, that is winning.

b) Winning means you turned the issue(s) in voters minds (even if you lose 'b') but you win the election on it so you can later do ‘a’ later

Example : 2007 to 2008 Speaker Pelosi opposed Bush in a way such that dems were able to take over the congress with such great numbers that they had a filibuster proof Senate 2009.

Then they passed Obama-care
That is ‘winning’

To be fair Pelosi had earmarks to bribe her members with, Bohner doesnt.

15 posted on 10/08/2013 5:52:25 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson