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Sticker Shock: Californians suddenly discover why all the Republican shouting over #Obamacare.
http://www.redstate.com/2013/10/06/california-exchanges-sticker-shock-obamacare/ ^ | 10-6-2013 | Moe Lane

Posted on 10/06/2013 9:55:10 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather

Meet Tom Waschura, Californian, father of two – oh, and right: Obama supporter. Just got a letter from his healthcare provider telling him that his private health insurance just went up by ten grand a year:

“I was laughing at Boehner — until the mail came today,” Waschura said, referring to House Speaker John Boehner, who is leading the Republican charge to defund Obamacare.

“I really don’t like the Republican tactics, but at least now I can understand why they are so pissed about this. When you take $10,000 out of my family’s pocket each year, that’s otherwise disposable income or retirement savings that will not be going into our local economy.”

Let me tell you a secret: we don’t need people like Mr. Waschura to love us. We just need people like him to vote their class interests, to quote the Marxists who unaccountably confidently expect this rotating disaster of a health care rationing system to fuel public outcry for socialized medicine. They don’t have to vote Republican forever, you know. We’ll be happy if they vote Republican just enough to allow the party to kill this thing. With that in mind, let me just be the first to assure Mr. Waschura that his hope that the rates will be adjusted down in a few years is only half-justified: left unchecked, they will be adjusted. Only upwards. The Democrats always expected and planned that Obamacare would be funded by raiding the incomes of as many people as possible; making the insurance companies the mechanism for jacking up premiums was the only way to get the insurance companies on-board.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: abortion; california; deathpanels; itsallfree; obamacare; price4idiot10k; redistribution; reparations; shock; sticker; surfcityfool; tomwaschura; zerocare
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Obama Supporter finds out he has been lied to about his insurance company. One of many to come.
1 posted on 10/06/2013 9:55:10 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Reality can be a b!tch, can’t it mr. obamasupporter?

Another conservative created as reality smacks him upside the head.


2 posted on 10/06/2013 9:58:46 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of faith....)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Coming soon: Left talking points blaming the greedy insurance companies...


3 posted on 10/06/2013 10:03:49 AM PDT by ReaganGeneration2
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To: sheikdetailfeather

“I really don’t like the Republican tactics, but at least now I can understand why they are so pissed about this.”

Welcome to the mugging, you low info Californo Zero homo schmoe!


4 posted on 10/06/2013 10:04:04 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: metmom
Another conservative created as reality smacks him upside the head.

If a conservative, is a guy who got mugged, this dude got mugged.

5 posted on 10/06/2013 10:04:34 AM PDT by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Veteran, 70-71)
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To: sheikdetailfeather
As a Californian, I'm surprised (and gratified) that one of my fellow inmates who is not a Tea Partier correctly identified SoetoroCare as being the problem.

One down, 29,999,999 to go.

6 posted on 10/06/2013 10:05:06 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Just wait till the Illegal Mexicans start screaming for health care! International Health Care he we come!


7 posted on 10/06/2013 10:05:54 AM PDT by Dallas59 (Obama: The first "White Black" President.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

“We’ll be happy if they vote Republican just enough to allow the party to kill this thing.”

That’s an idiotic statement to make.

No, realize that you’ve been voting for people who intend to bring down this country at which point you will be a serf. And probably a disarmed serf. Vote for those who will protect our constitution (which means your rights & liberties).

If the average citizen doesn’t start to understand that simple concept, we’re going to keep doing this over & over again.


8 posted on 10/06/2013 10:08:17 AM PDT by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: sheikdetailfeather
The Democrats always expected and planned that Obamacare would be funded by raiding the incomes of as many people as possible; making the insurance companies the mechanism for jacking up premiums was the only way to get the insurance companies on-board.

Tom Waschura, the ignorant useful idiot, could have noticed this tactic, it has been used thousands of times in the past, give crony business a cornered market and let 'em charge what they please.

It's called Fascism.

9 posted on 10/06/2013 10:08:40 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

How can “free” healthcare be so expensive? [chortle]


10 posted on 10/06/2013 10:09:03 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

“I really don’t like the Republican tactics . . .”

Yeah, jerkweed Obama supporter - that’s what you get when you prefer tactics that include lies, demagoguery, back room deals, intimidation, and the rest of the Chicago machine playbook.


11 posted on 10/06/2013 10:09:13 AM PDT by Stosh
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To: sheikdetailfeather

These Democrats have been crucifying Republicans with their words and actions, but now the rubber is about to meet the road.

When this thing starts stinging all of the working families and working Americans in a couple of years there is going to be such a scream that Democrat are going to have to go into hiding.

I mentioned to a Yellow dog democrat friend of mine yesterday that the IRS will have electronic access to his bank account and he said he never heard of such a thing. Told me I was wrong.

They have no idea what is coming down the line, they simply trust the a-holes they elected. They just assume the Tea Party is crazy. They believe Obama’s lies.


12 posted on 10/06/2013 10:09:31 AM PDT by Venturer (Obamacare is a criminal act.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Some people just need to find out the hard way don’t they.


13 posted on 10/06/2013 10:09:32 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (What do we want? Time travel. When do we want it? It's irrelevant.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

I’m waiting for senior citizens new to Medicare to find they will have a devil of a time finding a doctor or hospital that will now accept Medicare.


14 posted on 10/06/2013 10:10:08 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: Stosh

LOL! Exactly. He don’t like Repub tactics as compared to WHAT? Typical lib, they would let Democrats burn them alive before they vote Repub they’re so freakin’ brainwashed by the left.


15 posted on 10/06/2013 10:11:21 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (What do we want? Time travel. When do we want it? It's irrelevant.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

That’s 10,000 AFTER taxes...


16 posted on 10/06/2013 10:11:58 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (I grew up in America. I now live in the United States..)
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To: metmom

Nope, not even close.

He would Vote for Obama a third time if he could.

The Prisoners in the Gulags cried when Stalin died.


17 posted on 10/06/2013 10:12:18 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Due to the Federal Government Shutdown, the Tagline is closed.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Don’t worry Mr Waschura, you don’t have to buy it.
You could pay a fine and go to Mexico for healthcare.


18 posted on 10/06/2013 10:12:54 AM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Stupid Obwama voter.

Wealth is for your Leaders.


19 posted on 10/06/2013 10:12:57 AM PDT by Gasshog (Welcome to the United States of Stupidos!)
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To: sheikdetailfeather
You can't fix stupid...

...and this Obambi supporter is beyond repair...

Really disappointing that we are infested with these types...

20 posted on 10/06/2013 10:14:30 AM PDT by Fedupwithit (Your opinion: It's all yours....don't expect me to listen to it, or even acknowledge it..)
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To: sheikdetailfeather
Just got a letter from his healthcare provider telling him that his private health insurance just went up by ten grand a year:

Republicans have one thing on their side: Stupid hurts.

21 posted on 10/06/2013 10:16:58 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Producing Talk Show Prep since 1998.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather
"Of course, I want people to have health care," Vinson said. "I just didn't realize I would be the one who was going to pay for it personally."

Well, now you do, much too late of course. You're now stuck with it until the collapse.

22 posted on 10/06/2013 10:20:29 AM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Too late for this wealthy political retard.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SyntheSys_Research

The rich morons making a big stink over the GOP shut down make me laugh. The spiking premiums for high-income people are the tip of the iceberg. When this is all over, they’ll be paying 50% of their income in Federal income taxes. In fact, anyone making over $100K will eventually vote in lockstep for the GOP due to crushing income tax rates. However, by then, it will be too late. Because the new programs introduced will benefit so many sub-$100K income households that they can neither be repealed nor reduced in size, and an overwhelming majority of the electorate will be voting Democratic. And all because Democratic and GOP tycoons couldn’t stomach the idea of being aligned with social conservatives who are opposed to gay marriage and abortion, but whose religious views also oppose income redistribution due to their adherence to the commandment that “Thou shalt not steal”, even if the government does it for you. Ultimately, arrogant political retards with more money than sense, and a need to feel superior to some other group (social conservatives) against which it is politically-correct* to feel superior, brought it on themselves.

* Can’t feel superior to blacks without a twinge of racial guilt, so Bible-thumping social conservatives will have to do.


23 posted on 10/06/2013 10:21:14 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: tumblindice

the hope and change his enemies warned him about all the way along. all it did was make him hate the messenger more.

now it’s time to live the consequences of stupid.


24 posted on 10/06/2013 10:22:41 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

“I really don’t like the Republican tactics...”

Huh? What tactics don’t you like? Rule of law? Honest disagreement?

Oh, I see. You much prefer to be lied to 24/7 and convinced that the R party is full of evil, racists so you can feel morally superior. Just like the old Soviet Union. The leaders told the citizens that the west was a horrible, evil place, the people starving, etc. Just don’t try to leave and don’t forget, the KGB is always listening and watching.


25 posted on 10/06/2013 10:23:15 AM PDT by iacovatx (Conservatism is the political center--it is not "right" of center)
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To: tumblindice

republican tactics - telling the truth about obamacare since day 1.

that’s what he’s pissed about.


26 posted on 10/06/2013 10:23:59 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Hey Tom Waschura, article sez we don’t need your love. And you don’t like TP tactics. How about this, take you and your two kids and wife and DIE when you cannot get the insurance, the doctor, the care that has been decimated with ObammyCare and sheeple like YOU forced down our throats.

screw you Mr. Tom Waschura and we don’t want ANYTHING from you YOU jack*ff come lately ignorant fool enabling stupid a**


27 posted on 10/06/2013 10:25:24 AM PDT by apostoli (Time to thump the nose of the parrots.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather
Folks, if any of us think that Tom Waschura or Cindy Vinson or any of the low information Obamabots are going to vote for a (gasp) Republican in the near future, we are delusional enough to buy a bridge in Brooklyn or prime beachfront property in southern Arizona.
Once the administration comes up with a story to convince them that this thing ain't FUBAR and this is not just a normal government SNAFU, but the quotes are a Republican plot of some kind, they will be even more in love with The Won and back on the plantation.
28 posted on 10/06/2013 10:25:33 AM PDT by Tupelo (Snatching Defeat from the jaws of Victory, an old Republican Tradition.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

what a moronic comment, of many, i keep hearing from the left and obama supporters... at least this goon considers the extra $10k a year on his premium as, “disposable” income... many of us will bite the same bullet and we have no such income to dispose of! thanks a lot you ignorant lamus!
if you are not part of the elite, it will also all go downhill for you dumbo. welcome to the road to serfdom in America!
i don’t put a lot of thought into my posts anymore... just express my disdain and anger for these left turds. the new normal sucks and the real common sense is considered extreme... and it all came upon us so quickly and many lamuses are still clueless. sad.


29 posted on 10/06/2013 10:28:00 AM PDT by hope_dies_last
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To: sheikdetailfeather
ROTFL.
obamacare is inherently unworkable and there's no fix for it.

Shame on this individual for believing the Marxist in the first place.
30 posted on 10/06/2013 10:29:27 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Dallas59

Not long after that happens, it will become obvious that a country can chose to have generous social welfare programs, or it can chose to have open borders. It cannot have both.


31 posted on 10/06/2013 10:31:45 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: metmom

They’ll just blame it on the Pubbies, greedy Drs, medical and pharma, and insurance companies. Most can’t see beyond their wart-covered noses, due to White liberal guilt and blind allegiance to 0bummer&Co. They’ll get the tax subsidies, and claim victory. Some things never change.


32 posted on 10/06/2013 10:33:37 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: hope_dies_last
what a moronic comment, of many, i keep hearing from the left and obama supporters... at least this goon considers the extra $10k a year on his premium as, “disposable” income... many of us will bite the same bullet and we have no such income to dispose of! thanks a lot you ignorant lamus!

Assuming that you get coverage through your employer, are your premiums going up substantially?

33 posted on 10/06/2013 10:36:50 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather
This is why Obama will not back down on the budget "crisis".

Could you imagine the sticker shock of tens of millions of Obama voters when they get their health insurance premiums jacked up 200% or so five weeks before the 2014 elections? Think about it. Millions of morons getting the wake up call of a lifetime five weeks before an election.

It would be a purge of the democrates in the house and senate.

34 posted on 10/06/2013 10:37:41 AM PDT by GreenOgre (mohammed is the false prophet of a false god.)
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To: apostoli
How about this, take you and your two kids and wife and DIE when you cannot get the insurance, the doctor, the care that has been decimated with ObammyCare and sheeple like YOU forced down our throats.

He'll be fine. My guess is that he's worth tens of millions, minimum.

35 posted on 10/06/2013 10:38:54 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather
Bronco Bama is in for a real wild ride as he puts forth his healthcare disaster all designed to tick people off and make it easier to segue into a socialized, single-payer system.
36 posted on 10/06/2013 10:45:31 AM PDT by JPG (Putin Does Obama.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather
Let me tell you a secret: we don’t need people like Mr. Waschura to love us. We just need people like him to vote their class interests, to quote the Marxists who unaccountably confidently expect this rotating disaster of a health care rationing system to fuel public outcry for socialized medicine.

The GOP needs rich people to vote their class interests and working and middle class people to vote their religious principles. In practice, we can get most non-union working and middle class people to vote those principles, but the rich has its collective nose too high up in the air to want to be associated with the hoi polloi right.

37 posted on 10/06/2013 10:45:34 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei

thanx4 that link. i didn’t read the entire article that launched my tirade, however, i like TGO, HAVE HAD ENUF of these fools.

And yet this example of the multitude of $heeple expect$ us to pay 4his dumb uniformed ignorant stupid choices - a TAKER whilst having all that HIS sheeple are against, MONEY$$$$$$$


38 posted on 10/06/2013 10:45:34 AM PDT by apostoli (Time to thump the nose of the parrots.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

No, no, no.

Business Insider found one old Republican in Arkansas who found one plan that saves him a little bit of money. See? That is proof positive Hussein’s Death Panels are awesome.


39 posted on 10/06/2013 10:46:17 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Zhang Fei

i was recently laid off and don’t have insurance. i know the deductibles will be outrageous and the quality of care in general will be diminished. that is the natural course of socialized medicine, at a time when i have zero disposable income. oh, btw... jobs, or at least gainful employment, i have noticed are harder to come by. not surprising, eh?


40 posted on 10/06/2013 10:49:46 AM PDT by hope_dies_last
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To: sheikdetailfeather; Oldeconomybuyer

Related:

Obamacare’s winners and losers in Bay Area

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3075560/posts

“Of course, I want people to have health care,” Vinson said. “I just didn’t realize I would be the one who was going to pay for it personally.”


41 posted on 10/06/2013 10:51:55 AM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

ping


42 posted on 10/06/2013 10:52:57 AM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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If you’re surprised by the realities of BOzoCare you’re lazy, stupid or brainwashed and most likely a combination of all three.


43 posted on 10/06/2013 10:53:50 AM PDT by Hayride
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To: metmom
Another conservative created as reality smacks him upside the head.

A conservative is a liberal who has been mugged.

44 posted on 10/06/2013 10:54:23 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (The "government" is nothing but a RAT jobs program)
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To: ReaganGeneration2

They will blame it on anything or anybody except their her0.


45 posted on 10/06/2013 10:55:11 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: metmom
Another conservative created as reality smacks him upside the head.

Probably not. Nancy, Harry, and Chucky will come out with another list of lies blaming the nasty 'ol repubs and the disgruntled mr. obummer supporter will be right back on the liberal plantation.

46 posted on 10/06/2013 10:55:56 AM PDT by WesternPacific (The herded sheep have finally arrived at the slaughter house.)
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To: iacovatx

If Obama told him his policy went down $2500 while the $10k was held directly out of his check this idiot would say.....mmmm okay.


47 posted on 10/06/2013 10:58:25 AM PDT by sheana
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To: Zhang Fei
The GOP needs rich people to vote their class interests and working and middle class people to vote their religious principles. In practice, we can get most non-union working and middle class people to vote those principles, but the rich has its collective nose too high up in the air to want to be associated with the hoi polloi right.

Well, the good news is; there are a lot more "non-union working and middle class people" than there are rich people.

48 posted on 10/06/2013 10:59:47 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (The "government" is nothing but a RAT jobs program)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
“LOL! Exactly. He don’t like Repub tactics as compared to WHAT? Typical lib, they would let Democrats burn them alive before they vote Repub they’re so freakin’ brainwashed by the left.”

You are soooooooooooooooo RIGHT!

The democrats just received a blistering in Colorado after pushing through “gun control” legislation, would not allow anyone to speak against it in the legislature, refused to listen to the American people in Colorado, so they recalled two (2) of the top Democrat liberal socialist who were the pushers behind the anti-gun legislation. Has that stopped the liberal socialist from pushing more anti-gun legislation or call for more anti-gun laws in Washington, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

For the conservative Tea Party to push for an end to Obama mama's socialized health-care is certainly not any where compared to the tactic currently being used by the loony leftist, socialist, democrats who hate this Country so much, they have opened the borders in order to change the demographic make up of its people in order to steer the American people into a fascist socialist (Nazi) utopia!

Stay strong my fellow Americans, the truth will always win the fight and reality cuts the quickest to the bone!!!!!

49 posted on 10/06/2013 10:59:55 AM PDT by PotatoChop (Respect is earned, not demanded by this out of control socialist government!)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Of course the people of California’s insurance rates are going up ! that’s where most of the homo’s with AIDS live that are now all rushing out to get insurance that can no longer be denied to them.

Every hetrosexual person in California is now going to have to pay for the treatment of the millions of sodomites that live there


50 posted on 10/06/2013 11:00:06 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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