Posted on 10/04/2013 3:45:26 PM PDT by nhwingut
“An irony of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) is that one of its key provisions, the individual insurance mandate, has conservative origins. In Congress, the requirement that individuals to purchase health insurance first emerged in Republican health care reform bills introduced in 1993 as alternatives to the Clinton plan. The mandate was also a prominent feature of the Massachusetts plan passed under Governor Mitt Romney in 2006. According to Romney, ‘we got the idea of an individual mandate from [Newt Gingrich], and [Newt] got it from the Heritage Foundation.’”
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Sometimes, the truth does hurt.
So obozocare hardly translates into a "Republican idea."
No conservative ever supported socialized medicine.
You are so right. The American voter didn’t have much in the way of a real choice between Romney and Obama. Not much of a difference between those two.
But what is different..is if we could have elected a conservative (or sigh even Romney) we would have had a fighting chance to push forward the more conservative agenda emanating from the House.
Or am I too optimistic/dreamer that Boehner would have actually allowed conservative bills?
Apart from the ideology of it, they’re missing that at least Republicans can actually roll out a plan on time in working order, even if it’s a bad plan. The ineptitude of this bunch has been a blessing in disguise.
It’s not whether it was a Republican or a Democrat idea, that’s important. They’re both heavily Socialist concerns, clueless to what sound public policy is any longer.
Rest assured that it wasn’t a Conservative idea.
It was not a plan that conformed with our nation’s founding principles.
That’s right!
So we got the greater of two evils. I don't see how that works.
Not consevative origins. Republicrat origins...
In any case, fraught as it is with risk, dumping the Republican party may be the only way to move forward.
Hey, the reason a lot of Democrats voted for Obama was because they were so sure a Republican would be worse. And how many Republicans who voted for Romney in 2012 did so only because they thought the Democrat, Obama, would be worse? And the time before, McCain vs. Obama?
Americans need a party whose grail is limiting government, standing down government tyranny, preserving individual rights to live morally and prosperously. Today's government tyranny forces immorality and strife in the name of "what's best for you."
Or, as I saw in a headline from one leftist politician, like she was chiding a naughty school boy, "Americans all agreed to this, so why are you putting up such a fuss?"
Americans loathe nanny state government. "Republican" Romney is as bad as the Democrat, so the Republican party stands for, and has the credibility and principle of, ZILCH. Big fat donut hole.
Third party time.
The mandate doesn’t bother me that much. You have to buy car insurance to get a license. So if they did it in a simpler way, say, a 1-page-bill, it wouldn’t be so bad. It wouldn’t be too hard to say, everyone gets a health care tax, but if you show proof of insurance you’re exempted. And if the tax revenue went solely to reimburse hospitals for unpaid medical bills. It would be a way to help hospitals not suffer from being forced to treat anybody who shows up in an ER.
It’s the SUBSIDIES that are the huge problem and Romneycare had them too. They add trillions to the debt. They expand the welfare state. They encourage people to vote in politicians who give them free stuff, which only leads to more taxing and spending for more free stuff. They encourage immigrants to come here not for opportunity but to mooch off of the rest of us. They encourage people not to work because all their needs are met by the government. That raises costs on businesses who can’t find labor.
On top of that, the 1000s of regulations are the next big problem, where bureaucrats boss companies around and tell them what they can and can’t cover in their plans.
Yeah well EDISON THOUGHT OF OVER TEN THOUSAND WRONG THINGS BEFORE HE FOUND THE PROPER SUBSTANCE FOR THE FILAMENT IN A LIGHT BULB. HE ALSO SAID TRYING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AND EXPECTING DIFFERENT RESULTS WAS THE DEFINITION OF INSANITY. SOCIALISM IS INSANITY!
The Obama butt lickers are finding out it that may be called the affordable CARE act but it sure as hell ain’t affordable INSURANCE. Later they’ll find out the care is even less affordable.
Oh please, the individual mandate is only a fraction of all that is wrong with Obamacare.
Lets not forget this kind of thing went nowhere with conservatives or the GOP.
Now, see, that's what I'm talking about. With utmost respect, Jedi -- as long as you represent what the Republican party is supposed to be doing, I'm out. All my life I have voted Republican for the sole purpose of electing politicians who default to advocating and protecting individual independence from government, and who would naturally fight tooth and nail the entire concept of using government to oversee and determine each individual's relationship with doctors and nurses and medicine, becauss it is so wholly wrong headed and tyrannical.
As long as the Republican party plays that game of going along with the concept, and plays that game with "responsible" environmentalism, and plays that game with homosexual "rights," etc. etc. -- of using ham-fisted "for your own good" government to prohibit lawful production of food and energy and personal choice in something as basic as the doctors who take car eof you -- then the Republican party is the wrong party for me. And I have voted straight Republican ticket since 1976.
I know a dead elephant when I see one.
The problem is laws were passed to say emergency rooms have to treat whoever shows up. And those costs get passed on to everyone who pays their medical bills and buys insurance. If those laws were repealed, I wouldn’t consider a tax to repay those hospitals. But as it is, we have freeloaders and free riders who game that system. If they all had insurance to pay the hospital bills, there would be no problem. So I would consider a tax to pay those hospitals for unpaid bills, but exempt people who have insurance, since they are already paying into a system that covers those bills.
I don’t agree with a law that says everyone who shows up at a grocery store has to be given free food. But it’s even worse to pass such a law and then not offer any way of those stores getting reimbursed for giving out the free stuff. So there are only two choices, repeal the laws mandating hospital care at E.R.s, or come up with a way of reimbursing them without going further into debt.
Do not let people tell you 0bamacare was a Republican idea. It wasn't. I've come across a few 0bama nut jobs on facebook who have tried saying Obamacare was a Republican idea, and I took the opportunity to enlighten them.
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