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Gen. Giap, Vietnam war hero, dies at 102
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Posted on 10/04/2013 7:22:37 AM PDT by kronos77
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posted on
10/04/2013 7:22:37 AM PDT
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kronos77
To: kronos77
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posted on
10/04/2013 7:25:51 AM PDT
by
upchuck
(nobamacare must be stopped before it can live down to our expectations.)
To: kronos77
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posted on
10/04/2013 7:27:17 AM PDT
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WayneS
(Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos...)
To: kronos77
I remember when the CIA declared both Che and Gen Gaip dead. Then they showed up very much alive.
Several years ago I found on a YAHOO web page, an excerpt of Gen Giap’s book on the VN war and how they won.
They were totally defeated after the TET offensive and were ready to negotiate with the US and South VN.
Then the treasonous son-of-a-bitch WALTER CRONKITE came on TV and declared we could not win the war.
Giap decided to try again and kept up till he negotiated the US out of SVN and then attacked.
That YAHOO page has since disappeared.
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posted on
10/04/2013 7:32:39 AM PDT
by
Ruy Dias de Bivar
(Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
To: WayneS
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posted on
10/04/2013 7:36:03 AM PDT
by
LibLieSlayer
(FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
“Viet Nam, The 10,000 day War” has an episode where they said they were going to give up with the bombing of Hanoi with B-52’s, but JANE FONDA and other war protesters, gave them hope to hang in there awhile longer. They were strengthened by watching the protests in the US.
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posted on
10/04/2013 7:41:33 AM PDT
by
chuckles
To: kronos77
War hero? He's now resting along side of a number of his fellow “war heroes”....”heroes like “Mao,Stalin,Hitler and Kim Il Sung.
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posted on
10/04/2013 7:45:58 AM PDT
by
Gay State Conservative
(Osama Obama Care: A Religion That Will Have You On Your Knees!)
To: kronos77
John F'king Kerry is saddened.
Release your SF 180 Kerry, you pos.
5.56mm
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posted on
10/04/2013 7:46:42 AM PDT
by
M Kehoe
To: chuckles
***They were strengthened by watching the protests in the US.***
Giap said it was Walter Cronkite AND the student protests that made him decide to continue the fight. That page has disappeared as the link I had no longer works.
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posted on
10/04/2013 7:47:10 AM PDT
by
Ruy Dias de Bivar
(Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
To: kronos77
A worthy adversary... who in spite of his brilliance, his biggest military blunder was the 1968 Tet offensive... which NVA and Vietcong forces were devastated by American power. So wrecked was his armies, he pleaded to his Hanoi leaders
there must be a ceasefire and armistice!
The NVA and Viet Cong were no longer an effective fighting force
before such could be done, he and Hanoi were rescued by Walter Cronkite, who pronounced on national TV, this absolute military reversal was a victory for the Commies. Handed this HUGE propaganda gift, Giap and the Commies determined to slowly rebuild their forces
and president Lyndon Johnson did not seek re-election.
Its been said the Vietnam War was won three times before it was lost. After Tet was one, the invasion of Cambodia in 1970, where just miles from main NVA headquarters, Nixon under protest pressure recalled U.S. forces on the verge of its capture. In December 1972, Nixon unleashed the B-52a over Hanoi and Haiphong
forcing the North back to Paris. After the ceasefire, we all know Watergate happened
Nixon forced to resign. Democrats in Congress refused to enforce the peace agreement, giving green light to the North to conquer the South. Look it up
its not in the official media history
but truth can be found if you want it!
To: FiddlePig
The NVA and Viet Cong were no longer an effective fighting force
before such could be done, he and Hanoi were rescued by Walter Cronkite, who pronounced on national TV, this absolute military reversal was a victory for the Commies. Handed this HUGE propaganda gift, Giap and the Commies determined to slowly rebuild their forces
Just needed repeating...
5.56mm
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posted on
10/04/2013 7:52:43 AM PDT
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M Kehoe
To: LibLieSlayer
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posted on
10/04/2013 7:54:34 AM PDT
by
WayneS
(Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos...)
To: WayneS
Will Jon F’n Cary represent us at the funeral ?
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posted on
10/04/2013 7:59:43 AM PDT
by
Eric in the Ozarks
("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Here's a related story of an interview with Col. Bui Tin, member of Giap's staff, who accepted the surrender of Saigon.
Published in 1995 in the Wall Street Journal:
How North Vietnam Won The War
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posted on
10/04/2013 8:05:17 AM PDT
by
DuncanWaring
(The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
To: WayneS
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posted on
10/04/2013 8:05:48 AM PDT
by
LibLieSlayer
(FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
To: kronos77
A formidable enemy and a worthy opponent. He shaped an army out of sticks, bicycles, and peasants.
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posted on
10/04/2013 8:06:16 AM PDT
by
IronJack
(=)
To: kronos77
I thought his “crowning moment” was when the NVA marched into Saigon.
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posted on
10/04/2013 8:47:58 AM PDT
by
Hugin
To: kronos77
The good die young.
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posted on
10/04/2013 8:54:11 AM PDT
by
FredZarguna
(With bell, book, and candle, please.)
To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
RE: "Giap said it was Walter Cronkite AND the student protests that made him decide to continue the fight. That page has disappeared as the link I had no longer works."
"General Thi believes that the [American] media played a major role in the final downfall of South Vietnam. He quotes North Vietnam General Vo Nguyen Giap as stating in a French TV broadcast that Giaps 'most important guerrilla during the Vietnam War was the American press.'"
Here That one is still there.
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posted on
10/04/2013 8:54:33 AM PDT
by
WilliamofCarmichael
(If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
To: IronJack
His book, Peoples Army, Peoples War, is a good read. And might have lessons for many in the US in our present circumstance.
I feel and felt at the time that there was no good reason for the US to be involved in the Vietnam War. I understand the pain and the passion of many of my fellow veterans and the bitterness about being asked to do difficult, pointless things, accomplish the job, and then get betrayed on the home front.
After the war ended, Vietnam is now a pretty quiet place in the world with the attention of the Vietnamese focused on their traditional enemy, China.
TWB
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posted on
10/04/2013 8:58:36 AM PDT
by
TWhiteBear
(Sarah Palin...The Flame of the North)
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