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House to Pass Bills to Reopen National Parks, VA
AP ^ | October 1, 2013 | ANDREW TAYLOR

Posted on 10/01/2013 11:15:50 AM PDT by 11th_VA

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To: Kenny
But if Obama said Obamacare is already funded and he doesn’t need those annoying Republicans, what’s the big deal?

Just let them pass with a defunded Obamacare, why should he be worried about it?

I have wondered this since he said it's already funded. If so, why worry? Something else is up.

61 posted on 10/01/2013 2:39:08 PM PDT by Principled
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To: caww
Looks like the plan is to piece meal it all....hope they take their time..this will continue to flush out the Dems , Reid and Obama....

... and McCain, Graham, Cornyn, Chambless, Isakson....

62 posted on 10/01/2013 2:40:05 PM PDT by Principled
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To: 11th_VA

Typical statist issue. It cost didddle to “open” a park. It’s a fricking park. How much does opening a gate cost? I’m sure park goers would happily pack their own trash and bring their own toilet paper and towels.

Both Dems and Repubicans do this “scare tactic” crap. But it’s the low IQ folks out there that buy into it.


63 posted on 10/01/2013 2:42:20 PM PDT by Fledermaus (OMG! The Federal Government is Shut Down. World To End: Film At Eleven.)
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To: Jewbacca

They did that in 1995 even though the city of DC has there own budget. But DC is run by libs so they were “in” on the lies.


64 posted on 10/01/2013 2:43:59 PM PDT by Fledermaus (OMG! The Federal Government is Shut Down. World To End: Film At Eleven.)
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To: Stand Watch Listen

I’d love to see some A-hole federal bureaucrat try and stop them and get it on camera. Even being “shut down” liberals would do it because they hate freedom.


65 posted on 10/01/2013 2:45:47 PM PDT by Fledermaus (OMG! The Federal Government is Shut Down. World To End: Film At Eleven.)
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To: 11th_VA
An interesting parallel from the Wikipedia article on Prohibition in the United States.


Unpopularity of prohibition and repeal movement

As early as 1925, journalist H. L. Mencken believed that Prohibition was not working. As the prohibition years continued, more of the country’s populace came to see prohibition as illustrative of class distinctions, a law unfairly biased in its administration favoring social elites. "Prohibition worked best when directed at its primary target: the working-class poor." Historian Lizabeth Cohen writes: “ A rich family could have a cellar-full of liquor, but if a poor family had a bottle of home-brew, there would be trouble.” Working-class people were inflamed by the fact that their employers could dip into a cache of private stock while they, the employees, were denied a similar indulgence.

Indeed, before the date that the Eighteenth Amendment became national law, many of the upper classes stockpiled alcohol for home consumption. They bought out the inventories of warehouses, saloons, club store rooms, they emptied out liquor retailers and wholesalers. American lawmakers themselves followed these practices at the highest levels of government. President Woodrow Wilson moved his own supply of alcoholic beverages to his Washington residence after his term of office ended. His successor, Warren G. Harding relocated his own large supply into the White House after inauguration.

In October 1930, just two weeks before the Congressional midterm elections, bootlegger George Cassiday, "the man in the green hat," came forward and told how he had bootlegged for ten years for Congress. One of the few bootleggers ever to tell his story, he wrote five front page articles in The Washington Post. He estimated that eighty percent of congressmen and senators drank, even though these same people were the ones passing dry laws. This had a significant impact on the midterm election, which saw Congress shift from a dry Republican majority to a wet Democratic majority. The Democrats understood that Prohibition was unpopular and called for its repeal.


Does anybody see any parallels with today's fight over Obamacare? Switch the parties, but history is repeating itself. The politicians are doing for themselves the opposite of what they're mandating for the rest of the country. Waivers from Obamacare for politicians and big business, but not for individuals.

-PJ

66 posted on 10/01/2013 2:46:06 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: 11th_VA

The House should have been doing zero-base budgeting all along.

Start with funds for the services they can all agree on—and then work their way down the line.


67 posted on 10/01/2013 2:52:10 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 11th_VA

good, plus get on TV and call out bozo and Reid and the Dems for failing to pass a budget, for not wanting to talk let alone compromise and state how people are out of work and we have bills here but the Dems do not want them to work and would rather see this shut down


68 posted on 10/01/2013 2:54:23 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: tobyhill

EXACTLY

There are many other places to get news today and the silent majority are speaking up more and more.

The intimidation from the left wing loons, hippies, communists, homosexuals, and socialists is not working as much as it used to be.


69 posted on 10/01/2013 2:55:51 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: 11th_VA

How are they their parks to close? Aren’t they OUR parks? I understand if the offices have to be closed and the rangers can’t patrol. But how does the government get to prohibit us from using this land that belongs to the American public.

The parks should remain open and the people can assume the risks of having no government employees around.


70 posted on 10/01/2013 2:56:40 PM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: 11th_VA

this is EXACTLY what I suggested from the start

Break it down into pieces and pass each piece at a time.

which pieces to pass first? the ones Obama whines about (ie national parks, VA, ect)
(except Obamacare of course)


71 posted on 10/01/2013 3:29:31 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: 11th_VA

Perhaps the House can pass a bill to quit collecting payroll and other taxes since the government by their own declaration:

1) Has thousands of non-essential employees.
2) Is shutdown.


72 posted on 10/01/2013 3:45:43 PM PDT by IamConservative (The soul of my lifes journey is Liberty!)
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To: Principled

I am SO glad they are going to offer the Senate some limited options.... picking and choosing!!! You are right. The public is going to be furious when it dawns on them that they have been dooped!!!


73 posted on 10/01/2013 3:47:56 PM PDT by pollywog ("O Thou who changest not, abide with me.".......)
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To: keats5

“OUR” parks? HA....just like we all think we OWN our own homes....but we really rent them from the government.


74 posted on 10/01/2013 3:50:59 PM PDT by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: 11th_VA

Look Jack. The folks here are the smartest people I know so i hope i am not condescending in what has become obvious. The Republican leadership has fumbled its way for a touchdown and a humiliating defeat for obama by realizing after they forced the RATS to fund military, that they can fund all the government but obamacare!! It skins the cat a different way!! It is God’s great hand in defeating these communist bastards!! Run House RUN!! We wanted to save your area of government but Reid and obama STOPPED US— IT IS THEIR SHUT DOWN Don’t not stop. cram it down their evil throats!! ( get better Jim)


75 posted on 10/01/2013 5:02:00 PM PDT by SADMILLIE (r)
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They couldn't get it done. Latest House bid fails as bitter back-and-forth over shutdown rages

...."The Republican-led House offered its latest gambit on Tuesday night but failed in separate votes to approve piecemeal funding for three specific programs -- the District of Columbia, veterans affairs, and national parks. The votes required a two-thirds majority for passage, which required hefty Democratic support to have a chance. That did not materialize."................
76 posted on 10/01/2013 6:08:43 PM PDT by Girlene (Hey, NSA!)
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To: Jewbacca

The Senate dems should vote to keep DC’s trash from being collected, and then people can write, “This stench brought to you by.... “(and list the Rat Senators who voted against paying for trash pick-up).


77 posted on 10/01/2013 6:16:14 PM PDT by butterdezillion (Free online faxing at http://faxzero.com/ Fax all your elected officials. Make DC listen.)
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To: Girlene

Why do the votes require a 2/3 majority?


78 posted on 10/01/2013 6:24:12 PM PDT by butterdezillion (Free online faxing at http://faxzero.com/ Fax all your elected officials. Make DC listen.)
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To: butterdezillion

I don’t know. I was surprised they did.


79 posted on 10/01/2013 6:39:58 PM PDT by Girlene (Hey, NSA!)
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To: butterdezillion
Here we go: House defeats narrow funding bills

...."The bills would have funded national parks and veterans affairs, and one would have allowed the District of Columbia to use local revenue to fund governmental functions. The legislation came up under a fast-track procedure, which required two-thirds majority for House passage."...............
80 posted on 10/01/2013 6:50:55 PM PDT by Girlene (Hey, NSA!)
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