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Defiant House Delays Obamacare; Government Shutdown Looms
CNN ^ | September 29, 2013 | Tom Cohen and Holly Yan

Posted on 09/29/2013 5:58:57 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion

In a move that makes a government shutdown very likely, House Republicans approved a spending plan early Sunday morning that would delay Obamacare for a year and repeal its tax on medical devices.

The temporary budget resolution now goes back to the Senate, where Democrats have consistently said any changes to President Barack Obama's signature healthcare law is a deal-killer.

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The decision to vote on the House amendments overnight emerged from a rare weekend GOP caucus meeting called by House Speaker John Boehner. The votes, taken after midnight, were 231-192 for the Obamacare delay, and 248-174 for the medical device tax repeal, mostly along party lines.

Two Democrats broke rank and voted for the Obamacare delay: Mike McIntyre of North Carolina, and Jim Matheson of Iowa.

Seventeen Democrats voted for the tax repeal. Meanwhile, a bill to guarantee pay for military personnel during any shutdown passed 423-0.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Iowa; US: North Carolina; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: abortion; deathpanels; govtshutdown; iowa; jimmatheson; johnboehner; mikemcintyre; northcarolina; obamacare; ohio; zerocare
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Despite what the MSM says, the facts don't lie:

THIS IS A BIPARTISAN BILL!

1 posted on 09/29/2013 5:58:57 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Shut her down!

Delay, delay, delay—then never pass bummercare......

JMHO


2 posted on 09/29/2013 6:01:54 AM PDT by basil (2ASisters.org)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
Go home pubbies ... go to church with your family and thank God HE allowed you to be a part of (in my opinion and by faith .. ) His adopted nation.

Our enemy is not flesh and blood ... but some o'them flesh and blood critters sure do act like ol slew foot, eh ?

3 posted on 09/29/2013 6:02:00 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

This is the Repub’s last stand.

If they lose this, they are the new Whig party.


4 posted on 09/29/2013 6:02:21 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: BarnacleCenturion
Jim Matheson of UTAH
5 posted on 09/29/2013 6:08:18 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
Oh,it's the HOUSE that's defiant.What are CNN's ratings these days? Fifty thousand households in prime time is it?
6 posted on 09/29/2013 6:09:41 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Osama Obama Care: A Religion That Will Have You On Your Knees!)
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To: Utah Binger
Oh well ... he got the "A" right ...

/8^)

7 posted on 09/29/2013 6:09:51 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

CNN: “House makes move to make shutdown likely”
Fox: “House votes to avoid shutdown”

2 alternate realities. 2 countries.


8 posted on 09/29/2013 6:09:57 AM PDT by ReaganGeneration2
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To: basil

Bipartisan Government Shutdown, here we go. Whoo hoo!!


9 posted on 09/29/2013 6:11:08 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: BarnacleCenturion

The key vote of resistance showed only 19 Republican U.S. Senators voting the right way, the others were with Harry Reid and Barack Obama on Friday.

Boehner has lost the mantle of leadership to Ted Cruz and now has to put on this show to pretend he is a leader.

In the end we know Boehner caves as usual.


10 posted on 09/29/2013 6:12:30 AM PDT by Nextrush (BALANCED BUDGET NOW, PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN,CHANGE I BELIEVE IN)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
Why is the senate not in session today? Why is the media not all over Reid because of it?

Once again, media bias is on full display.

11 posted on 09/29/2013 6:12:35 AM PDT by JPG (Putin Does Obama.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2013/09/27/cable-news-ratings-for-thursday-september-26-2013/205178/


12 posted on 09/29/2013 6:13:42 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Good...shut the Feds down. Really...other than the Fed “workers” getting a paid vacation, what does it matter? At least during the “shut-down” maybe some of the Feds will “shut-up”.


13 posted on 09/29/2013 6:13:43 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Rehabilitation Camp?)
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To: ReaganGeneration2
2 alternate realities. 2 countries.

And the two will never reconcile, and cannot coexist indefinitely. I wonder if a final breakup is inevitable?

14 posted on 09/29/2013 6:18:47 AM PDT by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks. Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
Last night the dems repeated ad nauseum the bill was passed, signed and upheld by SCOTUS. The GOP missed a golden opportunity to remind everyone that SCOTUS did not uphold a mandate based on the Commerce Clause, but the penalties as a tax.

Obama has said the exchanges will open on the 1st regardless. Let them open.

The House should reply by saying let them open. Let anyone who so desires sign up. But there is no compromise on the mandate because the “tax” (penalty) did not originate in the house and we have no plans to originate a new tax.

Further, they should vote on a new bill which prohibits companies from dropping employees from healthcare plans to “force” them into the exchanges.

The GOP needs to up the ante.

15 posted on 09/29/2013 6:22:40 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Nextrush

“Boehner has lost the mantle of leadership to Ted Cruz and now has to put on this show to pretend he is a leader.”

Ted Cruz failed last week. That’s just a fact. I’m no fan of Boehner, but the house had voted to defund obamacare long before that vanity “symbolic” filibuster that didn’t accomplish anything.

Now we have a bipartisan bill that funds the government and the burden is on Reid to keep the government running.


16 posted on 09/29/2013 6:26:23 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: hal ogen

Isn’t it sad this country has become so dependent on the government machine it can’t even be shut down for repairs and maintenance every once in a while??


17 posted on 09/29/2013 6:27:56 AM PDT by Solson (The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

The republican leadership is in bed with the democrats with this bill, I have said all along that they wanted this healthcare bill to pass, now with this move the make sure voters do NOT feel the effects of Obamacare until after the mid-term elections.

Traitors everyone of them, and no they did not cave they want the same ends as the fascists because they are fascists too.


18 posted on 09/29/2013 6:28:02 AM PDT by stockpirate (Build a gallows outside the US Capital and they will come..or we need to drag them to it..)
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To: Da Coyote

Da Coyote, the repubs just gave the democrats the greatest gift of the mid-term elections, a delay in Obamacare.


19 posted on 09/29/2013 6:29:36 AM PDT by stockpirate (Build a gallows outside the US Capital and they will come..or we need to drag them to it..)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Shut it down for the next three years. It would be amazing to see how well the American people could adapt if they could keep all the money that is sent to the bottomless pit of Greedy Government.


20 posted on 09/29/2013 6:29:54 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

Agree with all your points.


21 posted on 09/29/2013 6:30:15 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: JPG

They are not in session because the fight is over, the democrats won, Boenher gave them what they needed the most, a delay.


22 posted on 09/29/2013 6:31:35 AM PDT by stockpirate (Build a gallows outside the US Capital and they will come..or we need to drag them to it..)
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To: txrefugee

I agree. Shut it down until further notice. When you are going in the wrong direction. The first thing you need to do is stop moving.


23 posted on 09/29/2013 6:39:03 AM PDT by FreeperCell
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To: stockpirate

Ditto.


24 posted on 09/29/2013 6:39:15 AM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Keep the faxes coming! Free fax resources:

http://faxzero.com/fax_senate.php

http://faxzero.com/fax_congress.php


25 posted on 09/29/2013 6:40:23 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
And just what is your plan to keep the focus on Obamacare, burn up the phone lines in DC, and keep Obamacare defunded?

Or do you just gripe and complain?

/johnny

26 posted on 09/29/2013 6:45:23 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Utah Binger
Oh, I thought he moved to Iowa.
27 posted on 09/29/2013 6:50:07 AM PDT by carumba (The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made. Groucho)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

We’re LOOMED!


28 posted on 09/29/2013 6:51:50 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

“...before that vanity “symbolic” filibuster that didn’t accomplish anything.”

It may not have accomplished any substantive or procedural changes in the Senate, but some positives came out of it. I think it influenced the House’s response to the Senate’s bill; more people are tuning into to the details of the Obamacare disaster, the current and future harms it is inflicting.


29 posted on 09/29/2013 6:51:55 AM PDT by Susquehanna Patriot (U Think Leftist/Liberals Still Believe That Dissent = Highest Form of Patriotism?)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
Thanks anyway, but I'll want door number three instead.
This is nothing but bullshit.
30 posted on 09/29/2013 6:54:16 AM PDT by novemberslady
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To: Gay State Conservative

Should we go back to the good old days when the man ruled the house, and the little lady just looked pretty? Why not? The current democrat regime and its syncophantic press want exactly that kind of arrangement. Whatever daddy(Obama) wants daddy gets. Enough said. Now send us some more tax money and shut up./p>


31 posted on 09/29/2013 6:57:19 AM PDT by billhilly
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To: Nextrush
Boehner has lost the mantle of leadership to Ted Cruz and now has to put on this show to pretend he is a leader.

Boner's resolve has stiffened? (With apologies to Carlos Danger)

32 posted on 09/29/2013 7:01:53 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Idiots. They’re HELPING ZeroCare succeed!


33 posted on 09/29/2013 7:08:17 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Islam offers choices: convert, submit, or die.)
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To: Da Coyote
This is the Repub’s last stand.
If they lose this, they are the new Whig party.



34 posted on 09/29/2013 7:20:04 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: JPG
Once again, media bias is on full display.

Too many voters in America just cannot see it. I have a wife who constantly gets her news from only one source - that 19" peephole into paradise.

Joseph Goebbels would be doing handstands were he alive today.
35 posted on 09/29/2013 7:22:13 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

It depends on what you define as failure. Did he win on cloture? No.

He gave a voice to those of us who are angry because the GOP has abandoned their constituents. He reminded us all standing on principle gets things done, things we did not think possible 2 weeks ago. It might start with baby steps, but we are moving forward.

The members of the House who were sent to Congress to repeal Obamacare gained strength as a group. They never would have consulted with Cruz had he not filibustered [not technically a filibuster, I know] last week. Boehner had no choice but to listen. He might fold yet, but if he does he will be seen as the loser he is. ( Gohmert caught leadership trying to be sneaky last night. Busted!!)

The dems are comparing us to:
1. slave owners (oppressors)
2. muslim terrorists (bombs strapped to chests)
3. Mafia (extortion)
4. My favorite: the GOP wil deny cancer treatment to every woman alive if Obamacare is defunded.
They are scared.

We are starting to unite. I would say that is a huge success.


36 posted on 09/29/2013 7:23:23 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: basil

Shut it down!

I’m sure we can stand not going to Federal parks or having the IRS breathing down our neck!


37 posted on 09/29/2013 7:29:26 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: stockpirate

“the repubs just gave the democrats the greatest gift of the mid-term elections, a delay in Obamacare.”

You are delusional. Many people said the same thing after the supreme court upheld Obamacare before the last election.

If Obama wanted to delay the implementation he would just delay it. He doesn’t need an act of congress to do it.

He is planning to enroll millions of people on Obamacare next year with subsidized health insurance and they will all vote democrat.


38 posted on 09/29/2013 7:30:40 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Barn voters will not see any of the huge increases in payroll deductions for a year, that is what the delay gives them.


39 posted on 09/29/2013 7:46:14 AM PDT by stockpirate (Build a gallows outside the US Capital and they will come..or we need to drag them to it..)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
Meanwhile, a bill to guarantee pay for military personnel during any shutdown passed 423-0.

So the .gov mercenaries will still be paid, when they receive their orders to open fire on Tea Party rallies and burn down patriots' houses.

40 posted on 09/29/2013 8:09:06 AM PDT by Old Sarge (Opinions are like orgasms: only mine count, and I couldn't care less if you have one...)
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To: ReaganGeneration2

2 alternate realities. 2 countries.

*********
Irreconcilable differences. Conservatives want freedom; liberals want control. There is no way to close this gap. We are hopelessly polarized, a house divided amongst itself. Eventually something’s gotta give.


41 posted on 09/29/2013 8:18:55 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: BarnacleCenturion; stockpirate

Actually, BC, Stockpirate is not that far off.

By kicking this can down the road a year, the GOPe has concealed from the unwashed masses the full impact of OdingaCare. When the next selection cycle rolls around, they will enter the polls oblivious to OdingaCare’s onerous effects, only thinking about the lure of “’Bawma gibsme free sh!t”.

Yes, Odinga could simply wave his hand and the seas will stop rising and this would be delayed. But by doing this, he has legitimized OdingaCare in the minds of the sheep, and at the same time, made the GOPe collaborators.


42 posted on 09/29/2013 8:26:45 AM PDT by Old Sarge (Opinions are like orgasms: only mine count, and I couldn't care less if you have one...)
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To: basil; blam; TigerLikesRooster; M. Espinola
BREAKING: Vote Is In !! Government Shut Down On The Way !

"Bummercare" . . . LOL !

43 posted on 09/29/2013 8:27:20 AM PDT by ex-Texan (The Time to "Wake Up" is Over !)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

The Senate voted 44 to 54 to keep ObamaCare stripped out of the Continueing Resolution bill. The House of Representatives voted 231 to 192 to put the ObamaCare delay amendment back into the watered down resolution the Senate returned.

When I do the math, a majority 275 representatives want to the pull plug and drain the ObamaCare swamp. A minority 246 representatives want to keep wallowing in the muck.

It would be nice to have the media report the true narrative, that the majority do not want ObamaCare. But that isn't going to happen. So, being the majority and in the right, we must simply continue to stand strong, not compromise, and improve the ratio with more intelligent representatives in coming elections.


44 posted on 09/29/2013 8:29:15 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: BarnacleCenturion
Ted Cruz failed last week. That’s just a fact. I’m no fan of Boehner, but the house had voted to defund obamacare long before that vanity “symbolic” filibuster that didn’t accomplish anything.

Peter King is that you?

LOL.

45 posted on 09/29/2013 8:44:48 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: stockpirate
"Da Coyote, the repubs just gave the democrats the greatest gift of the mid-term elections, a delay in Obamacare."

And the rats won't take it. They want complete surrender.

46 posted on 09/29/2013 8:48:53 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Mark17

Can two nations occupy the same geographic area?

Can we each declare individually, which country we belong to, and then live side by side, with separate systems for everything?

I vote to be in the nation which does not allow those in power to use my money and labor to satisfy their urges to take pity on others—Mr. A feels sorry for Mr. B. so he steals from Mr. C to pay B. A feels like he is moral and helpful to B.

A feels superior to C, his slave.


47 posted on 09/29/2013 8:50:51 AM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: BarnacleCenturion
Ted Cruz failed last week. That’s just a fact. I’m no fan of Boehner, but the house had voted to defund obamacare long before that vanity “symbolic” filibuster that didn’t accomplish anything.

In terms of that particular bill, perhaps. In the larger scheme, he focused attention within the Republican Party as to exactly how many Quislings are elected to the Senate.

Ted Cruz scattered more D.C. cockroaches in 21 hours than commentators, pollsters, lobbyists and special interests have in 21 years. That isn't failure. It sets the framework for long term success.

He also put immense public pressure on the House to stand its ground. That isn't failure either. It's reminding the American public and the Republican Party alike that the conservative base actually matters, and I for one appreciate that.

48 posted on 09/29/2013 8:52:08 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (My PV2 is my hero.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Didn’t accomplish anything? lol

He’s murdering the GOPe and the dems.

Look today he’s calling the Senate back and busting on the media for not calling the senate out.

Just damn he is the one driving this bus.

Because of him, the Rs are fighting. Is that nothing?


49 posted on 09/29/2013 8:56:19 AM PDT by Principled
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To: basil
Delay, delay, delay

Speaking of Delay...I understand that Tom "The Hammer" Delay was just exonerated by an appeals court from the overreaching charges of Ronnie Earl, and the false prosecution by a partisan hack judge.

The higher court ruled that there was no problem with the fundraising practices he engaged in, and the law that he was accused of violating was not even in effect at the time.

Of course, this all cost him years of his life and millions of dollars, but he said "this ain't over yet". When asked if he was ruined politically he indicated that he still has some surprises up his sleeve.

So, imagine a Speaker "The Hammer" Delay, and a president of the Senate Ted Cruz.

What a Texas dream team.

50 posted on 09/29/2013 9:09:23 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATS! Control your murdering FREAKS!)
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