Posted on 09/28/2013 8:08:32 PM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
Health care rollout would proceed if government shuts down, uninsured would still get covered
WASHINGTON (AP) — Republicans pulling on the budget thread can't neatly unravel President Barack Obama's health care law.
A partial government shutdown next week would leave the major parts of the law in place and rolling along, according to former Democratic and Republican budget officials, as well as the Obama administration itself. Health care markets for the uninsured would open as scheduled on Tuesday.
Deleting the money to implement the law, the GOP's dream scenario, would indeed cripple Obamacare. But that's much less likely to happen than a government shutdown. Obama wouldn't allow the ruin of his hard-fought namesake legislation.
Part of the reason a shutdown wouldn't stop the health care law is that government doesn't grind to a halt. National defense, law enforcement, air traffic control and other activities involving the safety of human life and the protection of property continue.
Ditto for big entitlement programs such as Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, whose "mandatory" funding does not have to be renewed annually by Congress...
(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...
Dunno if this is true or not, but slowing it down, making Obamacare anything BUT a done deal, will keep it foremost as an issue in the 2014 campaign and election, which should be good for our side. The more it seems like a done deal, the more we seem like sore losers, but as long as it’s an open wound and ongoing source of frustration, people are going to continue to turn against those who refuse to repeal or change it.
The article seems to be written to scam readers with a misleading headline and misdirection. I think we all know a government shutdown doesn’t stop Obamacare. That’s why we’re trying to DEFUND Obamacare. And the article says at the bottom, DEFUNDING would work. No one on our side EVER claimed a government shutdown alone stops Obamacare. That’s utter BS for the article to imply... Below they explain how defunding it does work...
Defunding the 3-year-old health care law and thus preventing its full implementation, as the House has voted to do, would be a different story.
“If you take away the money, the rest of the law isn’t going to work,” said Paul Van de Water, a former top official of the Congressional Budget Office, currently with the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, which advocates for the poor. Without subsidies to help the uninsured, the law’s requirement that virtually all Americans get coverage would be unreasonable.
This communist thing will not work. It really doesn’t matter how we react toward it now. It just won’t work. And that will be our peace.
The only reason the shutdown is an issue at all is because the Dems are stopping us from defunding it by threatening a shutdown if we give them that bill.
And the question has always been, which side will cave first. If the people believe that it’s worth defunding Obamacare in order to stop the shutdown, then Obama could cave. That’s obviously our best hope. And it’s worth any try to stop this monstrosity from being implemented.
Somewhere in the back of my mind I believe this report has been effectively rebutted but I cannot find it online. It seems to me critical that we get clear whether we are spinning gears or moving toward something effective when the government shuts down.
OK....so here is an idea (and I admit it may be a bad one...but I'm just throwing stuff out there):
What if the GOP were to put forth a bill which actually implemented Obamacare, and funded it, but it restricted the funding to that which was promised?
In other words: OK dems....we will fund it...for what you promised us it would cost.
How could they argue against that?
I’m very tired of the so called Republicans and Democrats! I say it’s time to shut down all government benefits and then re-allocate them on a REAL need basis. Wow!, would that not be a deal-breaker for the Democrats! Would that not be a real shame...heh. Just how many could re-apply for benefits and actually get them these days!
Government bankruptcy is at hand folks!!
Yes, there are real needs, but I’d guess that it would be about 1/5th of the actual cost that is being spent today.
Until both parties get together and actually do something about it, we will continue to slide into bankruptcy.
I'd suggest AF1 and gov't golf courses first.
Until this article I never heard anyone claim a government shutdown would stop Obamacare, not from Ted Cruz, Mike Lee or anyone else. This is a total strawman.
Does everyone know this?
So delay it for a year. /s
Allow the Kenyan Kronies to further it deeper. Killing off even more private insurers.
The GOP just cannot throw enough Darwin quicksand upon itself fast enough to better the nation, and knock themselves off at the same time.
Delaying socialism is appeasement, and that really sucks.
I’m to the point where I am very suspicious of what any professional politician or bureaucrat says- on either side.
SHUT the STUPID Federal Government down and let’s see what happens! I keep hoping for them to do this for an extended period but have yet to experience the euphoria about it actually happening. I always blame the Republicans for not doing this!!
Obamacare is nowhere near good to go even if fully funded.
Well, for that you are correct! Neither one has an honest thing to say about factual events. So like you, I and probably many others have to rely on what the Media reports - good luck with that.
Maybe it’s time to just go with your gut!
Idf the House eliminates all funding for Abamacare and obama proceeds he should be tried for treason, convicted and executed!!
Some Republicans keep saying they dont want to shut down the government.
I’d like to see an authoritative rebuttal also.
Scamming is typical of the leftist Business Insider.
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