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To: maxwellsmart_agent
They slandered Joe Paterno in favor of the clown who supposedly saw the crime and was too chicken to report it to the police himself. Joe Paterno did what any of us would have done under the circumstances. He reported it to his superiors. His job was done. The clown who actually saw it and did nothing about it is the one the NCAA should have gone after.

I see another Joe Paterno (or pedophile enabler) has entered the fray.

Take a look at this dumb italicized comment above. You criticize the then graduate assistant (Mike McQueary) for not going to the police but GOING TO HIS SUPERIOR PATERNO, but then you let Paterno off the hook by saying he (Paterno) went to HIS SUPERIORS and NOT THE POLICE and that was all you would expect anyone to do under the circumstances.

Brain-dead logic anyone? Or is it recto-cranial inversion?

15 posted on 09/28/2013 9:41:05 AM PDT by JohnG45
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To: JohnG45

MM first reported what he heard - he didn’t see anything - to his father and Dr. Dranov (a mandated reporter). They didn’t hear anything that would make them call the cops. Why should Joe have called the cops? What sense does that make?

The fact that V2 came forward almost 2 years ago and said nothing happened apparently means nothing to you? I guess you can’t fix ignorance.


17 posted on 09/28/2013 10:02:38 AM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: JohnG45
You criticize the then graduate assistant (Mike McQueary) for not going to the police but GOING TO HIS SUPERIOR PATERNO

Mike McQueary was not on staff at that point and free to call anyone he wanted about the incident. He chose to call his dad and family doctor neither of whom believed that what he saw rose to the level of child molestation warranting a call to the police. They didn't believe him so they told him to go dump it in Paterno's lap.

you let Paterno off the hook by saying he (Paterno) went to HIS SUPERIORS and NOT THE POLICE and that was all you would expect anyone to do under the circumstances.

Paterno on the other hand made sure that the report made it all the way up the ladder to the head of the campus police [Schulz] who himself directly contacted Chief Harmon, the chief of campus police, who incidentally handled the 1998 Sandusky investigation and still had the files on his computer, as Louis Freeh noted in his report. You should read it sometime and get an education before posting uninformed opinions not based in fact.

18 posted on 09/28/2013 10:17:01 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: JohnG45

“You criticize the then graduate assistant (Mike McQueary) for not going to the police but GOING TO HIS SUPERIOR PATERNO, but then you let Paterno off the hook by saying he (Paterno) went to HIS SUPERIORS and NOT THE POLICE and that was all you would expect anyone to do under the circumstances.”

Mike McQueary saw what he thought was sexual contact. He had an obligation to report what he thought was a crime.
Paterno heard a second hand report that was unclearly described. He did what was correct. He had witnessed no crime.


29 posted on 09/28/2013 11:10:17 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (I grew up in America. I now live in the United States...)
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To: JohnG45
When Penn State president Graham Spanier (who vowed when appointed in the mid-1990s to make PSU the "most Gay friendly campus" in America (not really demanded by the neighboring populace in Happy Valley or by the reasonably consertvative student body at Penn State), did anyone who is flogging the corpse of one of the greatest football coaches this nation has or ever will see have any complaints about Spanier? How much influence do you suppose Spanier had on the choice of Trustees? On the choice of subordinate officials like the Athletic Director or the choice of the chief of the campus "police department" (whose primary job is to protect the school's reputation by shooing away other more legitimate and independent sworn law enforcement departments?

Did JoePa BELIEVE McQueary? JoePa, for whatever it is worth, DID report what McQueary reported to him (although McQueary had three different stories. IF (BIG IF) the fully clothed and athletic young McQueary (according to one story of McQ) actually was an EYEWITNESS to the naked 60+ year old Sandusky's shower room anal rape of an 11 year old boy, why did not the "heroic" McQueary walk into that shower room, deliver a substantial kick to Sanduskys offending organs, cold cock Sandusky, save the kid, and get Center County Sheriffs, Bellefonte Police or Pennsylvania State Police involved then and there rather than just walking away, going home and telling his Daddy a couple of days later BEFORE telling JoePa?

59 posted on 09/28/2013 2:56:26 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Rack 'em, Danno)
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To: JohnG45; FlJoePa; Uncle Chip; Paradox; CommerceComet
JohnG45:

When Penn State president Graham Spanier (who vowed when appointed in the mid-1990s to make PSU the "most gay friendly campus" in America, a status not remotely demanded by the neighboring populace in Happy Valley or by the reasonably conservative student body at Penn State), was appointed president of PSU, did anyone who is flogging the corpse of one of the greatest football coaches this nation has or ever will see have any complaints about Spanier? How much influence do you suppose Spanier had on the choice of Trustees? On the choice of subordinate officials like the Athletic Director or the choice of the chief of the campus "police department" (whose primary job is to protect the school's reputation by shooing away other more legitimate and independent sworn law enforcement departments?

Did JoePa BELIEVE McQueary? JoePa, for whatever it is worth, DID report what McQueary reported to his superiors (although McQueary had three different stories). IF (BIG IF) the fully clothed and athletic young McQueary (according to one story of McQ) actually was an EYEWITNESS to the naked 60+ year old Sandusky's shower room anal rape of an 11 year old boy, why did not the "heroic" McQueary walk into that shower room, deliver a substantial kick to Sandusky's offending organs, cold cock the SOB Sandusky, save the kid to the extent that it was possible, and get Center County Sheriffs, Bellefonte Police or Pennsylvania State Police involved then and there rather than just walking away, going home and telling his Daddy a couple of days later BEFORE telling JoePa?

Most Americans are familiar with Joe Paterno as an outstanding coach. Virtually no one, outside the pervert-American community and the afflicted PSU top administration "leaders" has ever heard of Graham Spanier or his "gay friendly" appointees. ESPN and other leftist politically correct sports "news" outlets and insufferable "opinion oeaders" being paid for leftist spew, went into collective protective mode to shield Spanier, the Trustees and the actual co-conspirators and to make Paterno the fall guy. My hope is that Second Mile Foundation be thoroughly and objectively investigated as to whether it provided fatherless pre-pubescent boy/victims to Spanier and/or his coven of lavender buddies. Maybe yes. Maybe no. But investigate relentlessly and objectively.

Also, investigate relentlessly the "disappearance" of the Center County elected prosecutor who was investigating the despicable activity at Penn State about five years before the scandal finally broke. His lap top sans hard drive was found in a river bed. The utterly destroyed hard drive was found a few hundred feet further down the river. His car was found in the parking lot of an antique store near where the computer parts were found and 20 miles from his office. No body or body parts of the prosecutor have ever been found.

Finally, the NCAA was being run (wild) by former Indiana State University Myron Brand who had fired Bobby Knight as basketball coach for Knight's decidedly non-Kumbaya way of running a great basketball team. Brand then fled to the NCAA. I personally hope that the NCAA is absolutely destroyed by the Paterno lawsuit and that the Paterno estate squeezes every last nickel from the always politically correct NCAA and leaving the NCAA as a radioactive ash heap, a status that should be shared by Graham Spanier and his Penn State Trustees and their apologists in the LameStream Media.

If Bobby Knight witnessed a child being anally raped by Sandusky, Knight would have become a national hero then and there. If Sandusky, as is probable. did not survive, too bad! Would have saved the taxpayers a lot of money.

61 posted on 09/28/2013 3:30:17 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Rack 'em, Danno)
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To: JohnG45

Sorry you feel that way! You are in the minority though.


67 posted on 09/30/2013 4:05:18 AM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent
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