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To: the scotsman

When I read stuff like this, I get sick to my stomach.

Is this what Statism can do? Are Germans somehow morally defective monsters, or can any group of people be made to behave so horrifically?

Disgusting. They should all have been hanged.


7 posted on 09/26/2013 12:04:35 PM PDT by ZULU (Impeach that Bastard Barrack Hussein Obama)
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To: ZULU
They should all have been hanged.

Just to be clear: you meant the women, I hope, and not the children. :)

10 posted on 09/26/2013 12:06:20 PM PDT by Ingtar (The NSA - "We're the only part of government who actually listens to the people.")
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To: ZULU

...can any group of people be made to behave so horrifically?

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Absolutely...Janet Reno - Waco, Mad Maddie - Iraq, Shrill - Benghazi and all over the ME.

We’ve done more than our share of whacking people.


14 posted on 09/26/2013 12:09:06 PM PDT by Adult Dog
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To: ZULU

Not just Germans. Any group of people can be made to behave as she did. Rwandan genocide of 1994. Nearly fifty thousand hacked to death with farm implements. In the first 48 hours. Many of the killers were just boys. They stopped only when simply too exhausted to continue swinging a machete.


27 posted on 09/26/2013 12:20:24 PM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: ZULU

“Is this what Statism can do? Are Germans somehow morally defective monsters, or can any group of people be made to behave so horrifically?”

This kind of a mentality is justified throughout the history of Socialism.

Like “the Butcher of Leningrad”, who knew he was destroying his own soul acting as the Political Executioner for the Reds, but he was comforted in knowing that murdering thousands for political reasons would help create “The Great Socialist Future” that he wouldn’t live to see.

There are an awful lot of skeletons piled high on the Altar of Socialism....


30 posted on 09/26/2013 12:21:47 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: ZULU
From my reading of such things as Christian martyrdom and other incidents of torture, it has been demonstrated throughout time that otherwise perfectly sane and rational people - anyone - can descend into sadistic brutality with relative ease. It's a frightening thought, but it has been shown over and over again. This article simply provide yet more empirical evidence.

I firmly believe that demonic forces whip people into a blood-lust frenzy. I also believe that some people, perhaps legions of people at a time, can and do become possessed by demonic spirits. Read this article again and try to otherwise explain what these sadistic women did.

37 posted on 09/26/2013 12:29:57 PM PDT by Obadiah (I Like Ted.)
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To: ZULU
The lesson from Germany is that it can happen anywhere. England - Cromwell, US - American Indian relations

I see a LOT of these type of totalitarians from the academic left. Peter Singer. Bill Ayers. Ward Churchill. They all have a lot of useful idiots with them as well.

Anti-fascism is the new fascism. Same shit. Different name.

41 posted on 09/26/2013 12:34:00 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Abortion - legalized murder for convenience)
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To: ZULU
Answers to your questions in post # 7

Yes. No, they are/were no different than us. Yes. Look at how Bill Clinton was worshipped by some and how Obama is now being worshipped. All it will be a media demonizing those whom they wish to be the scapegoats. Yes they should have all been hanged.

It is my opinion that it has already begun over here and the targets are legitimate gun owners, Conservatives, Christians, and White people in general. I believe, My FRiend, that we are already several miles down the same road Germany started down in 1933. Only problem is, we do not have anyone to save us but us and thus far we have been unwilling to do that.

We will do it later. The only problem with that from what I read is there was a segment of the German population that thought the same thing. The problem with was that they discovered that the NAZIs were always one or two steps ahead of them.

The truth of the matter is, What we don't do now won't get done.

75 posted on 09/26/2013 1:49:41 PM PDT by sport
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To: ZULU

How can the nation that gave us Beethoven and Goethe give us the Nazis?. How can the nation that bred Hitler be the same that bred Mozart?.


91 posted on 09/26/2013 2:56:44 PM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: ZULU

“Is this what Statism can do? Are Germans somehow morally defective monsters, or can any group of people be made to behave so horrifically?”


These are good and honest questions.

The Stanley Milgram obedience research (as portrayed in the CBS series The 10th Level) gave startling evidence that even in a college setting, with the only authority figure being a man in a lab coat and a clip board could coax ~~70% of the subjects to commit murder by electrocution (or so they thought they were doing).

This is why the world should have listened to the words of Lord Acton “Power Corrupts and Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely”, and of course to the Founders of the USA who did everything they could to keep chains on the size of government.

However, we have been too stupid, (thanks in large part to government schools), and too lazy and we allowed the monster of government and unlimited diet of money and power.


92 posted on 09/26/2013 3:04:39 PM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam! 969)
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To: ZULU

Look at the black women participating in black mob violence against whites and hispanics, or making excuses for the violence that they endorse.


99 posted on 09/26/2013 5:05:24 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: ZULU
Are Germans somehow morally defective monsters, or can any group of people be made to behave so horrifically?

Even the most decent, human society has people in its midst who will blindly follow a charismatic leader, and would-be dictators who want the adoration of the crowd.

Germany was an advanced, educated society, with serious contributions to the sciences and the arts. Students came to Germany to study. Nor was Germany the most anti-Semitic country in Europe; Jews there had mostly assimilated and held all manner of positions and offices. Intermarriage with Christians was possible, and socially not the end of the world. Many Jews served as officers in the Kaiser's army in WW1~they considered themselves loyal Germans.

If Nazism could happen in Germany, something analogous could happen here. Just listen to the hateful language of the left; you know perfectly well what they would do the right if they thought they could get away with it.
104 posted on 09/26/2013 7:10:29 PM PDT by Nepeta
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To: ZULU
Are Germans somehow morally defective monsters, or can any group of people be made to behave so horrifically?

It isn't limited to the Germans, by any means.

Historically, women have been every bit as capable of torture as men.

Cruelty knows no bounds, and it is civility which must be learned.

We generally teach civility from the cradle onward, but hatred and contempt for life, or any philosophy can be equally taught.

The Nazis bought wholeheartedly into the eugenics thing. Our abortion abattoirs would have made them proud. With genetic testing and computer databases, they could have made the slaughter even more efficient.

Sick cultures produce sick people, and even as we recoil from the evils of the past, we grow culturally closer to the philosophies which produced those evils. The attack on Christianity (and Judaism) seeks to tear down the last significant barriers to the same cultural perversions of the powers we fought in WWII, only now the evils wrap themselves in the cloaks of "caring" and "sensitivity" and "diversity" to mask their true nature.

Beyond names, cultures, and tribes, and nations, beyond the players and intellectuals who take credit or assigned blame, the fundamental elemental battle continues between light and darkness.

125 posted on 09/27/2013 6:10:27 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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