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To: servo1969

Hold the line! Do not surrender! The House and the House alone has the constitutional power to win this appropriations fight against an illegally expanding federal government, per James Madison, Federalist 58. The Founders saw this coming and gave we the people the tools to head if off through our elected representatives. This is the people’s fight against unconstitutional government and we can win it as long as we can prevent our reps from surrendering. Obama/Reid cannot get the funds for obamacare if our House refuses to appropriate them!! Period!! No matter how long it takes!! There’s nothing more important to the republic!!

The senate has nothing to do with it. The house has the power to deny funds—if they hold it together. The house rejects what the senate sends back, and then passes a new bill. This time start cutting the budgets of the mostly political departments, ie, any department that has anything to do with health, education, welfare, housing, labor, commerce, banking, agriculture, energy, etc, and be sure to cut the budgets of the IRS and HHS by more than the amount they’re asking to implement obamacare. If the senate amends it back, then the house reject it again, and begins passing individual bills to fund each essential department, one by one. If the fight drags on until Nov 2014 that’s fine. We’ll get a new Republican controlled senate, then the battle starts against the lame duck president. There’s no reason for the congress to work on anything else, because obamacare marks the end of limited government. And the end of our republic. This one is for all the marbles.


11 posted on 09/24/2013 10:44:01 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

If the fight drags on until Nov 2014 that’s fine.

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We just need this fight to drag on another 60 days. Here’s why. Millions of employers and the group insurance companies like Humana and Blue Cross will soon be setting and releasing the 2014 insurance options. And the premiums associated with ObamaCare.

If in fact - as many expect - the premiums increase 20 percent or more... The Senate will join the House and deny funding. The fraud that is Obamacare will fall apart by end of year.


18 posted on 09/24/2013 10:50:33 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Jim Robinson
The senate has nothing to do with it. The house has the power to deny funds—if they hold it together. The house rejects what the senate sends back, and then passes a new bill. This time start cutting the budgets of the mostly political departments, ie, any department that has anything to do with health, education, welfare, housing, labor, commerce, banking, agriculture, energy, etc, and be sure to cut the budgets of the IRS and HHS by more than the amount they’re asking to implement obamacare. If the senate amends it back, then the house reject it again, and begins passing individual bills to fund each essential department, one by one. If the fight drags on until Nov 2014 that’s fine. We’ll get a new Republican controlled senate, then the battle starts against the lame duck president. There’s no reason for the congress to work on anything else, because obamacare marks the end of limited government. And the end of our republic. This one is for all the marbles.

That's one heck of a plan. Risky (especially with the MSM as it is - they'd be chirping about the GOP's "scorched earth plan to de-fund Obamacare" the first time the House rejects the Senate bill), but it could work. The key is keeping on top of the House to hold the line. I have little faith that they will (especially with the House GOP "leadership" as it is - you think Boehner has what it takes to stick to a tough position in the face of an all-out onslaught from the Dems/MSM??), but stranger things have happened.

24 posted on 09/24/2013 11:04:46 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Jim Robinson

Absolutely.


48 posted on 09/24/2013 12:18:03 PM PDT by Weirdad (Orthodox Americanism: It's what's good for the world! (Not communofascism!))
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