Posted on 09/23/2013 5:34:19 AM PDT by Kaslin
Thank you!
This issue is not about GMO’s per se. It’s about CONTROL !
“Control the oil, you control the country. Control the food, you control the people.” - Henry Kissenger
What about the number of Monsanto legal actions against those not under contract to them? Contract disputes are one thing, taking action against one not under contract because of DNA issues of crops is entirely different.
GMO crops are no big deal to me, the overbearing brutality of how Monsanto works is where I have my problem with them. The federal government has far too much control over our food production, whether it be with subsidies or siding with companies such as Monsanto and that federal control needs to be reined in.
I primarily plant heirloom crops, but do enjoy several specific hybrids which I regularly plant. But I also like playing with the seeds of those hybrids by saving some for another planting and seeing what I come up with. It's a fun, and harmless little hobby, but one that some frown upon, which is why Monsanto (among others) seek to patent their seeds and then come after those who have crops that show some of "their" DNA.
It doesn’t matter if you call it hybridization, grafting, or cross breeding. They are all natural trait selection processes.
LARGE International companies don’t die. They may fade away and change names but the money behind them is still buying government approvals, legislative votes and licenses to control sectors of the world economy.
How'd skipping all those science classes work out for you?
It does by the traditional measures of calories burned—e.g., x calories burned per mile of swimming, x calories to consume per pound of weight gain or loss. That’s what I was getting at.
CCD is nothing new.
http://www.nationalreview.com/planet-gore/357439/bj-rn-lomborg-there-no-bee-crisis-greg-pollowitz
Honeybee deaths are also nothing new. The Breakthrough Institute reports that, in 1853, Lorenzo Langstroth, the 19th-century bee-keeper who invented the modern hive, described colonies that were “found, on being examined one morning, to be utterly deserted.
The comb was empty, and the only symptom of life was the poor queen herself.” In 1891 and 1896, large clusters of bees vanished in a case known as May Disease.
In the 1960s, bees vanished mysteriously in Texas, Louisiana and California. In 1975, a similar epidemic cropped up in Australia, Mexico and 27 U.S. states. There were heavy losses in France from 1998 to 2000 and also in California in 2005, just two years before CCD was first diagnosed.
You might have to walk more to burn the same calories, the calories still balance.
3 guys eats 2000 calories a day. One burns 1900, he gains weight. One burns 2000, he remains the same. The third burns 2100, he loses weight.
It doesn't matter if the different amounts burned are because they exercise differently, their metabolism is different or their hormones are different.
Eat more than you burn, you'll gain weight.
Maybe you could list them here. Every judgment I've seen clearly shows that the defendant violated the agreement/law. Any grower who purchases Monsanto patented seeds has to sign a Monsanto Technology/Stewardship Agreement.
Even though the left, and some FReepers, argue that Monsanto is evil personified, farmers choose Monsanto's products of their own free will year after year. There has to be a reason for this, and maybe it's because Monsanto delivers the products that makes farmers more productive, and their farms more profitable. Monsanto does not place a gun to their customer's heads and force them to buy their seeds.
Monsanto aggressively protects their intellectual property. So what? So does Apple. You never hear the left calling Apple the spawn of Satan because they protect their property. Go figure.
I'm not inclined to agree with you here about grafting. The only grafting for trait selection processes I have ever been aware of need assistance. Hybridization and cross breeding most usually occur because of natural pollination, although both are more commonly done now under controlled circumstances by humans.
All I asked was how many more years you have until you get your gold watch. To that you ask about me supposedly skipping science classes? How many logic and reading comprehension classes did you have to drop to keep from screwing your GPA?
>>“This sounds awfully like the anti-fracking nonsense.”
Bingo. When the left gets this upset about something, you can be sure there is another agenda below the surface that they don’t want to talk about. With fracking, they really want to stop us from finding new sources of fuel, because they don’t want a strong, energy independent America.
With the anti-GMO hysteria, the left is trying to minimize our food production, to both weaken us, and to reduce the world food supply as a backdoor to population control.<<
BULLSHIT!
Maybe he’s already retired from Monsanto, and taken up his post at the FDA. ;-)
What are you talking about? It seems like you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about or maybe I misunderstand your use of words like grafting and hybridization.
Let me provide an explanation and clarification. Genetic modification is the use of virus to inject foreign DNA into plants. This is done in a lab. Virus already do this in nature but God, or nature, or our balanced system of life, decides on how this works. Do you want a company with a history of corruption and a total lack of ethics wielding this power?
Grafting is taking parts of a plant and getting it to grow on another. Many plants are gender specific, like cherry tree’s. You take a female cherry tree and graft male parts on to it so it can self pollinate. Now you dont need multiple tree’s for production. In grafting, there is no exchange of genetic information.
Many of the new designer hot peppers are created through hybridization, selective breeding and cross breeding. There is no lab, there is no injection of animal DNA or god knows what. You take pollen from one plant and pollinate another through natural methods. Even feminizing plants uses natural methods.
Norman Borlaug and his “Green Revolution” used cross breeding and natural methods. He wasn’t splicing genes in a lab.
Kindly reread what I wrote - I said nothing about customers who bought Monsanto seeds - I spoke of those that Monsanto claimed had Monsanto DNA show in their crops. I no longer have the cases at the ready, and there weren't many - but there have been some, and Monsanto prevailed.
I don't care how sterile Monsanto claims their seeds to be, DNA can still be transferred - that is basic science.
You are a bluffer and liar. Grafting is done for fruit trees and grapes like the ones I have. No one grafts wheat or vegetables. I have read about a few people grafting tomatoes and eggplants but that is it!!! Wheat, beans and vegetables and others are bred via careful pollination and selection of winner specimens and using their seeds. Idiot!
Not wanting to be too crude here, but there is also the factor of how much is kept in the system to be burned or stored—and how much is passed on through. Both the option to burn or store and to pass through or use are probably affected by more factors than we’ve yet come to fully understand.
Be crude, it’s still calories in - calories out.
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