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Biden in Mexico: U.S. Needs 'to Bring 11 Million Undocumented ... Out of The Shadows'
cnsnews ^ | 9/22/13 | http://cnsnews.com/source/terence-p-jeffrey-0

Posted on 09/22/2013 8:55:28 AM PDT by Nachum

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To: Nachum

I wouldn’t trust Biden to take care of a 5-o’clock shadow ...


21 posted on 09/22/2013 10:34:35 AM PDT by mikrofon (Si se NO WAY)
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To: Nachum

Yeah. Let’s bring ‘em “out of the shadows” and send them over to Joe Biden’s house to be fed and sheltered. Rimshot should have been telling those morons in Mexico to start taking care of their citizens and stop sending them to America and making them dependent upon the U.S. taxpayers for their survival.


22 posted on 09/22/2013 10:46:24 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The time for impeachment has come.)
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23 posted on 09/22/2013 11:22:06 AM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: Nachum

The U.S. needs to what? We don’t need to do a damn thing but deport 20 million illegals back to Messy-co.

Why don’t Sharpton and Jackson scream bloody murder about the plight of the negro caused primarily by Messy-cans.

Illegals come here and take lower paying jobs from those Americans who need them. But...hey, let’s not discuss the obvious.


24 posted on 09/22/2013 11:42:22 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: Nachum

President and I, are literally going to shape the future for my country.
No thanks I saw how the C.C.C.P. operated it didn’t work.


25 posted on 09/22/2013 12:01:54 PM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Nachum

I’m sick of the 11M meme - it’s more like 30M, or more.

Stop the lying, Plugs.


26 posted on 09/22/2013 12:05:46 PM PDT by Adult Dog
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To: Nachum

But, Joe, isn’t immigration law the LAW OF THE LAND?


27 posted on 09/22/2013 2:24:20 PM PDT by aimhigh
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Rand Paul’s immigration speech
03.19.13 | Hon Sen Rand Paul (KY)
Posted on 03/19/2013 7:04:07 AM PDT by Perdogg
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2998395/posts

...The Republican Party must embrace more legal immigration.

Unfortunately, like many of the major debates in Washington, immigration has become a stalemate-where both sides are imprisoned by their own rhetoric or attachment to sacred cows that prevent the possibility of a balanced solution.

Immigration Reform will not occur until Conservative Republicans, like myself, become part of the solution. I am here today to begin that conversation.

Let’s start that conversation by acknowledging we aren’t going to deport 12 million illegal immigrants.

If you wish to work, if you wish to live and work in America, then we will find a place for you...

This is where prudence, compassion and thrift all point us toward the same goal: bringing these workers out of the shadows and into being taxpaying members of society.

Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers.12 million more people assimilating into society. 12 million more people being productive contributors.

[but he’s not in favor of amnesty, snicker, definition of is is]


28 posted on 09/22/2013 3:03:19 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: Jane Long

[Let these two *fix* Mexico, before they completely destroy America.]

Correcting the problems that drive millions of illegals into the U.S. would be cheaper, easier and nobler than trying to assimilate tens of millions of hungry, desperate Latins.


29 posted on 09/22/2013 6:24:22 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: 3Fingas; AuntB; Grampa Dave; sickoflibs; thouworm; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Tennessee Nana; ...
Okay---say a few thousand sneak across the US border "for a better life." That would engender an "amnesty" discussion....and most Americans would be amenable to that.

But----when tens of millions of illegals are brazenly violating our sovereign borders, financing pressure groups, lobbyists, legal groups, etc...and are dues-paying members of organizations marching in our streets brazenly DEMANDING govt handouts, and radical changes in our laws, with plans to takeover the Southwest US.....THAT IS AN INVASION.

Let's call it what it is.

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CAN YOU GUESS WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF 30-Million Plus Armed Americans paraded into the Sovereign Nation of Mexico and diligently began to:

<><> 1. Mine their precious metals (Gold, Silver, Tin, etc.).

<><> 2. Fish their Seas.

<><> 3. Farm their Lands.

<><> 4. Harvest their Forests.

<><> 5. Pump out billions of their vast stores of Oil.

<><> 6. Demand rights and privileges.

<><> 7. Refuse to obey Mexican laws.

<><> 8. Demand exemptions from the consequences of law-breaking.

<><> 9. Send all they can get their hands on back home.

<><> 10. Stealthily hollow out the country's resources from within.

30 posted on 09/23/2013 5:21:28 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Adult Dog
I’m sick of the 11M meme - it’s more like 30M, or more.

Seems like only a few months ago politicians and the MSM were using 12 million as the propaganda number. Now, it's down to 11 million. Either we are making progress or someone is fibbing. Me thinks it is the latter.

31 posted on 09/23/2013 5:33:24 AM PDT by SMM48
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AMNESTY IS ONLY THE BEGINNING ACCORDING TO THIS LATINO CONGRESSMAN : "Once Congress approves an immigration increase, minorities should demand more, said Rep. Luis Gutierrez (Dem-Chicago), a leading advocate of the (now defunct) Senate bill.

“The next day after we pass it, you know we’re not going to be satisfied, we’re going to come back,” he said. “We’re going to have a civil rights act, we’re going to have a voting rights act… Nobody is leaving this fight once we conclude this first chapter,” he said. "Hopefully, in 30 years, [we] can bring immigrants… from all over the world,” Gutierrez said.

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US TXPAYERS DEMAND AN IMMEDIATE THOROUGH INVESTIGATION OF GUTTIEREZ. US citizens demand need to know the answers to these questions.

<><> Who is Gutierrez?

<><> How many identities does he have?

<><> Does he have a rap sheet here? In Mexico? Elsewhere?

<><> Does he now or did he ever receive welfare, food stamps, SSI, free medical care, Section 8 housing, UI, Workmen's comp under several identities?

<><> Did he ever apply for, and receive, monthly SS checks, claiming "asylum?"

<><> Does he have a sub-prime mortgage obtained w/ the help of The Hispanic Caucus on Capitol Hill?

<><> Did Gutierrez ever make false claims on IRS forms in order to get EITC refunds?

<><> Does Gutierrez---a former cab driver---have a legal driver's license?

<><> Does he have a valid passport?

<><> How many times did Gutierrez wire-transfer money back to Mexico? The Third World?

<><> How often does he travel to Mexico? The Third World?

<><> Is he registered to vote under several identities?

<><> Does he belong to radical America-hating organizations planning armed conflict to takeover the American Southwest?

<><>

<><> Do his kids now or did they ever get in-state tuition--free school lunches--welfare--- food stamps-free healthcare---SSI/ADD checks.

<><> Does Gutierrez know how much money is being drained from the US economy---wired back to secret Mexican bank accounts?

<><> Does his retirement include SS checks for multiple when all his identities?

<><> Did Gutierrez ever use his Congressional office to coach illegals on using multiple identities to get tax dollars?

<><> Did Gutierrez ever use his Congressional office to help illegals SWINDLE THE US GOVT?

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DID GUTIERREZ USE HIS CONGRESSIONAL OFFICE TO HELP ILLEGALS OBTAIN FRAUDULENT MORTGAGES? MORTGAGES THAT DEVSTATED THE US ECONOMY? THAT US TAXPAYERS WERE FORCED TO BAILOUT? Read on.

MASSIVE MORTGAGE FRAUD ON CAPITOL HILL FACILITATED W/ OUR TAX DOLLARS :

The Congressional Hispanic Institute, Inc, is an entity organized by Cong Joe Baca (D-Cali) in his capacity as head of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus.

Cong Baca created "HOGAR" (Spanish for home) in 2003 to work with the mortgage industry, F/M, lenders, banks and latino community groups to increase mortgage lending to what savvy observers consider to be unqualified Latinos.

"HOGAR" colluded w/ Cong Baca in what was to become a massive bilking of taxpayers. Cong Baca calculatedly hyped the fact that the national Latino homeownership rate was 47%, compared with 68% for the overall population.

HOGAR was coached to call the figure "alarming," and to say "a concerted effort was required to ensure that by the end of the decade Latinos will share equally in the American Dream of home ownership."

HOGAR and Cong Baca conned the public, failing to note that most of the "dreamers" were illegals, citizens of Third World countries who had violated US borders.

Predictably, HOGAR colluded w/ co-conspirators which included:

(a) shaky mortgage companies that ran into big trouble;

(b) Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, both now under federal control after billions in taxpayer bailouts;

(c) Countrywide Financial Corp., sold to Bank of America Corp;

(d) Washington Mutual Inc., taken over by the US government and sold to J.P. Morgan Chase & Co.; and,

(e) New Century Financial Corp. and Ameriquest Mortgage Corp, both now defunct, killed by defaulted subprime Latino mortgages.

HOGAR's ties to the subprime mortgage industry were substantial. Bribery and self-dealing were rampant:

<><> Companies that donated $150,000 to Cong Baca got the right to have their own research fellow who would conduct fraudulent studies, which were cunningly used by industry lobbyists to pump lending.

<><> Bribery and extortion in the form of $100,000 annual donations to Cong Baca, for which HOGAR provided phony news releases from Cong Baca's Hispanic Caucus promoting a lender's commercial products to the Latino market,

<><> The most shocking example of bribery well- substantitated by Hogar's literature..... HOGAR announced it worked with Freddie Mac on a self-serving two-year examination of Latino homeownership in 63 congressional districts.

The "study" found Hispanic ownership on the rise thanks to "new flexible mortgage loan products" that the industry was adopting at the urging of Cong Baca's collusive coterie.

<><> HOGAR conned lenders into even more lenient down-payment and underwriting standards.

<><> As the subprime debacle unfolded, HOGAR declined repeated requests for comment despite the economic havoc their activities precipitated.

The mortgage schemes demonstrated the criminal activities of border violators with multiple identities---perhaps violent, terrorist-connected foreigners---colluding and conspiring to defraud private companies and public entities. And mortgage racketeering enterprises which employed sub rosa finance and business practices to carry out deceptions and frauds.

The alleged ring of swindlers---a Congresman, individuals with multiple identities, banks, insurance companies, mortgage brokers--might be charged with cheating the US govt, taxpayers and bank share holders out of hundreds of millions of dollars via an elaborate web of mortgage and bank frauds.

The mortgage Dreamers used multiple phony identities, fraudulent Social Security numbers, purchased from identity forgers in order to obtain govt-subsidized benefits.

L/E will find that individuals with multiple identities obtained fraudulent mortgages then flipped the houses at ever-higher prices to family member who then absconded to foreign countries, sticking banks (and taxpayers) with hundreds of millions in fraudulent mortgages.

BACKGROUND A Wall Street Journal investigative report related that, according to the Federal Financial Institutions Examination Council examination of the borrowing spree, uncovered financial schemes by low-income housing groups, Hispanic lawmakers, a congressional Hispanic housing initiative, mortgage lenders and brokers, all colluding in fraduent schemes to increase homeownership among Latinos with forged documents which enabled massive fraud.

This was not simply the mortgage market at work. It was fueled by avarice, greed, and Congressional enabling fraudulent practices. In 2005 alone, mortgages to Hispanics jumped by 29%; Latinos with multiple fraudulent identities in low-paying jobs obtained subprime mortgages for prime properties---soaring to 169%.

(Research provided by Wall Street Journal. Some material excerpted from the NY Times).

32 posted on 09/23/2013 5:58:05 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Liz

On target Liz. Your thoughts are correct. Stealing is Stealing and illegals steal, from Americans, by being in our Nation illegally. It is a fact which is completely true.


33 posted on 09/23/2013 8:41:14 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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