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The gun control debate Sen. Feinstein does not want to have
Washington Times Communities ^ | September 17, 2013 | Sara Marie Brenner

Posted on 09/17/2013 11:41:42 AM PDT by jazusamo

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To: aruanan

The “report” your boss referred to is no doubt bull squat. The percentage of times gun owners are shot by invaders with their own guns is surely in the low single digits, based on my attention to news stories, and common sense.

More likely your boss heard an MSM “expert” warn that you could be shot with your own gun and believed that had the weigh of a “report.”


21 posted on 09/17/2013 12:08:56 PM PDT by ez (Muslims do not play well with others.)
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To: jazusamo

I would love to get accustomed to hearing, “breaking news, a homeowner shot and killed a drug crazed home invader weilding a shotgun.”


22 posted on 09/17/2013 12:09:30 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (So Obama "inherited" a mess? Firemen "inherit" messes too. Ever see one put gasoline on it?)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo; VerySadAmerican

I also read this morning it was confirmed no AR-15 used.


23 posted on 09/17/2013 12:11:17 PM PDT by jazusamo ([Obama] A Truly Great Phony -- Thomas Sowell http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3058949/posts)
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To: jeffc
Gun control is not what the gun-grabbers are after. The ultimate goal, little by little, is an outright gun ban.

Gun control is not about guns at all. It is about control.

That said...gun control, to the enlightened mind, means using two hands.

24 posted on 09/17/2013 12:13:53 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (So Obama "inherited" a mess? Firemen "inherit" messes too. Ever see one put gasoline on it?)
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To: ez
More likely your boss heard an MSM “expert” warn that you could be shot with your own gun and believed that had the weigh of a “report.”

That "you're more likely to be shot by your own gun" story is one of those 100% unadulterated pure BS lines that left-wingers will throw at you if you make a strong, reasoned argument for any reality-based position that they find troublesome.

By doing so, they expect to throw you off your stride. By making you think for a second as you try to come up with a counter-argument for such an obviously nonsensical position, they get the upper hand in the exchange.

I would observe that one response to such a statement is something like "got any proof for that assertion?" But that's usually too stiff and confrontational for any sort of workplace watercooler conversation.

I really think the best thing to do is just withdraw from the discussion at that point. The reason is that any person who would make that kind of argument is either dishonest or stupid, and you're not going to convince them of anything. They don't want to be convinced, and they can't be convinced. You're simply wasting your time trying to do so.

If the person is your boss, that goes double.

25 posted on 09/17/2013 12:18:22 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: VerySadAmerican
There was absolutely NO evidence an AR-15 was used. Yet every media outlet reported that the shooter had one.

The Blaze was reporting it was a shotgun.
The same one Crazy Uncle Joe Biden told us to discharge out the back porch to scare away intruders.

26 posted on 09/17/2013 12:20:19 PM PDT by RedStateGuyTrappedinCT
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To: aruanan
You gave your boss too much credit.

When I hear such BS I ask for information, "please tell me where I can read that report - it sounds interesting. Did it really say..." I estimate that 95% of the time their claim will crumble before you, or more likely, they will not be willing or able to provide a source. The other 4.9% of the time the report itself will be a pack of lies.

I'll bet one of these is the case here: either your boss made that up, or the writer did.

27 posted on 09/17/2013 12:22:21 PM PDT by 70times7 (Serving Free Republics' warped and obscure humor needs since 1999!)
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To: jazusamo

Couple of threads on it here. My primary news source. FR.


28 posted on 09/17/2013 12:23:19 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Support Free Republic!!!)
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To: MeshugeMikey

A sign this morning, on the highway, reminded that there were 2300 or so deaths on Texas Highways this year so far. 200X more than what the NavSea atrocity incurred, yesterday, rest their souls.

There are 3 or so accidents at any given time in this town, per the traffic report and I pass two per day, on average.

When we were in Germany, for 4 years, I saw one accident per year. and they do not drive while intoxicated, they are not allowed to, so they don’t. It is not allowed (I repeat, I don’t think a lot of people here know what it means)

I believe 3000 deaths, and the wild driving antics I see every day around here can be prevented.

If it were safety, clearly, this is a direction they would take.


29 posted on 09/17/2013 12:25:58 PM PDT by stanne
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To: RedStateGuyTrappedinCT
CNN actually had on the screen that AR-15 shotgun was involved.

I also heard that the shooter was found to have in his possession a dreaded new weapon, the AR-15 slingshot!


30 posted on 09/17/2013 12:26:05 PM PDT by skimbell
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Gun control is not about guns at all. It is about control.

Yes that, too.

Control + gun ban = more control.

More control + healthcare control = ultimate control.

ultimate control = death of freedom.

31 posted on 09/17/2013 12:35:08 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: MeshugeMikey

“nothing to see here folks just contaminated hot air from the mouth of the senior senatress from Scam Francrisco”

The following is a correction of a minor typo:
“nothing to see here folks just contaminated hot air from the mouth of the senior senatrix from Scam Francrisco”.


32 posted on 09/17/2013 12:55:46 PM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam is antithetical to, and Islam is irreconcilable with, America. Therefore - Islam Delenda Est)
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To: GladesGuru
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33 posted on 09/17/2013 12:59:09 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Un-Documented Journalist / Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
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To: skimbell

danger danger run away run away

difi will surely opine on this new threat to world peace before the day is over.


34 posted on 09/17/2013 1:00:05 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Un-Documented Journalist / Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
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To: weps4ret

In 1993 Clinton banned them on bases. Only security personnel could carry.


35 posted on 09/17/2013 1:03:28 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: jazusamo

My E-mail to Dianne:

So here you are again, chattering about the “need for gun control” before the investigation into the DC Navy Yard is through it’s first day. But we do know some things at this juncture. None of the usual political language applies here. Alexis, who killed twelve people, did not buy a weapon “from a friend” or “over the Internet” or in the “parking lot of a gun show.” He did not have a “high capacity” magazine from which to “spray” bullets around. He did not buy a “military style assault weapon,” nor did he even use one. He did not use “special ammunition.” Instead, he bought a shotgun that almost nobody is openly suggesting should be banned or controlled. Policians like you who call for new laws in the wake of this shooting will thus need to be called to task with a simple and reliable question: “What exactly do you propose doing, and how specifically would it have changed what happened at the Navy Yard? You need to use some intellectual honesty instead of prattling on about something about which you know or understand very little. I understand you don’t like guns for anyone except yourself and the rest of “the important people,” the group with which you self-identify so I expect that you will be up on your “soapbox” about this tragedy because like “our president,” you never let a bad situation go to waste.


36 posted on 09/17/2013 1:15:47 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: vette6387

Good one and all true.

Of course DiFi is not interested in the truth, doesn’t want to hear the truth and wouldn’t recognize the truth if it hit her in her big butt where her brain is located.


37 posted on 09/17/2013 1:24:32 PM PDT by jazusamo ([Obama] A Truly Great Phony -- Thomas Sowell http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3058949/posts)
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To: jazusamo

“Of course DiFi is not interested in the truth, doesn’t want to hear the truth and wouldn’t recognize the truth if it hit her in her big butt where her brain is located.”

Yeah, I understand that she had a recent colonoscopy and they found a brain tumor! At 80, you would think she and her husband would just retire and see if they could spend all the money they’ve made as a consequence of her involvement in politics, but their greed has no bounds, or so it would appear.


38 posted on 09/17/2013 1:48:38 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: Dick Bachert

Ask Susann Gratia Hupp that question:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1u0Byq5Qis


39 posted on 09/17/2013 2:40:47 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: P-Marlowe; jazusamo

I read one report that said the man reported for work just one week ago. That doesn’t strike me as a psychotic break. It strikes me as planned.

A .45 on 1000 people would have made him think twice.


40 posted on 09/17/2013 3:43:29 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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