[SkyPilot]

I did differerntiate between earned and unearned Entitlements, in post #9.

"The Sequester did nothing to address this explosion of Entitlement growth, in fact, it completely ignored the problem. The source of our spending nightmare is not discretionary spending, it is Entitlements (both earned and unearned). The 3 worst actors are Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid, two out of three are earned Entitlements, but they are all a train wreck, and ObamaCare is about to add to the carnage."

And unfortunately for you, me, and the entire nation, the biggest contributors to our debt and depict ARE Entitlements, and Social Security and Medicare are massive problems to deal with.

We didn't "pre-pay" into anything. Those programs are only sustained even today by massive borrowing and taxes on (the few) remaining current workers. There is not vault of money, yours or mine.

I am not saying we should eliminate SS or Medicare, but there have to be reforms or the United States is going to implode.

The giveaway programs are an obscenity. I just read here on FR that illegals in one California county collect billions.

[X-spurt]

Don’t agree with your contention, except for that last sentence, which correctly points out the problem is fraud not honest PRE-PAY recipients to SS and Medicare.

Regardless of how the Ponzi is processed inside the government, it does not change the facts that those that are legitimate SS drawers did PRE-PAY at 15% of their income their whole working life.

Most folks who have not yet talked with SS Admin, may be surprised to learn that they can not collect any SS if they do not sign up first for Medicare. A second surprise is that Medicare costs us very close to standard health insurance by the time the 1st part of deducted from your monthly SS, Part B and Part D (you pay to some private insurance company) runs another big out of pocket cost. And again, hardly some freeby entitlement.