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An extraordinary turn against military intervention: Americans usually embrace war
Al Jazeera America ^ | September 10, 2013 | Stephen Kinzer

Posted on 09/10/2013 7:21:38 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet; a fool in paradise

Sorry, I don’t listen to Al Jazzeera, I’m more into folk and blues.


21 posted on 09/10/2013 7:40:17 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think Bush and his crew not only soured Americans, but the whole world in joining us. Now the refrain is, “The last time you told us Saddam had WMDs, why should we trust you now?”


22 posted on 09/10/2013 7:40:29 PM PDT by frickin_frackin
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

FU Stephen Kinzer and FU Al Jazeera.

Another leftist taking blood money to push muzzie agitprop.


23 posted on 09/10/2013 7:40:31 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We’ll probably support military intervention when Kinzer’s paymaster, the Emir of Qatar, is attacked and overthrown by one of his neighbors. The irony here is that Kinzer is now being paid by one of the autocrats he used to issue book-length rants against. Talk about selling out.


24 posted on 09/10/2013 7:43:47 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Last Dakotan
The propaganda apparatus has been used so often and blatantly that no one believes the crap anymore.

It used to be easy to use the media to manipulate the public into supporting a war. After all, our government wouldn't really lie to us would it?

Now, everyone knows we are living under a regime that will lie. We listen to the news like Soviet citizens used to listen to Isvestia and read Pravda. Everybody knows it's crap.

Now, even if there were to be a necessary, just war, I doubt that there would be much support for it.

25 posted on 09/10/2013 7:44:22 PM PDT by seowulf ("If you write a whole line of zeroes, it's still---nothing"...Kira Alexandrovna Argounova)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

this was a referendum on Obama.

Obama lost.


26 posted on 09/10/2013 7:47:45 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: seowulf; All

Reagan lived by the credo: “Trust, but verify.”

With Obama we can do neither.

Obama lied to us about Benghazi, and then spent a year covering up his dereliction of duty as Commander In Chief during the critical hours of the Benghazi Massacre.

Can anyone in the US Military trust Obama?

Why should we taxpayers trust Obama?

Who can trust someone whose own SEALED personal records cannot be verified?

Obama cannot be trusted or verified is the obvious conclusion.


27 posted on 09/10/2013 7:48:43 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: frickin_frackin

If there’s any rationale whatsoever, it’s that the WMD’s that didn’t exist in Iraq, that weren’t surreptitiously transported to Syria prior to UN inspections, have now been used, in Syria. A longstanding narrative comes unravelled with such an admission, though. So we get vague platitudes that just do not ring true.


28 posted on 09/10/2013 7:48:52 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The “Commander of Chiefs” needs to keep his “Corpse men” home.


29 posted on 09/10/2013 7:51:38 PM PDT by Red6
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To: Last Dakotan

I don’t think Obama got the memo that the Caliphate is dead.


30 posted on 09/10/2013 7:52:28 PM PDT by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Americans are not interested in war. Americans are interested in defending ourselves.

That’s it.

BO and his ship of fools would do well to figure that out quick. But they won’t. And dwhat’s good for them is not usually what’s good for America.

Al Jazeera doesn’t have a clue , either, any more than their owner Gore the Puffy.


31 posted on 09/10/2013 7:54:35 PM PDT by stanne
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
manifest destiny gave way to something more sophisticated called liberal internationalism

Gobbledigook --Americans simply realize WE WILL GAIN NOTHING in Syria. No land, no money, no influence, no prestige, not even any feeling of having righted some wrong.

Sometimes it appears to the American public that the interests of the country ARE involved, and sometimes it doesn't appear that way.

And this time? It really, really appears we'll gain nothing.

I don't think it goes much further than that.

32 posted on 09/10/2013 7:55:34 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why not include the rest?

‘In Overthrow: America’s Century of Regime Change From Hawaii to Iraq, Kinzer critiques US foreign policy as overly interventionist.’

This guy is a leftist. Why am I not surprised to see the dateline is from AJ???

Why bother to post this drivel from known enemies of the US and Christians world wide???


33 posted on 09/10/2013 8:00:21 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What the whole world thought about WMD’s in Iraq wasn’t Bush’s fault.
911 changed everything, If Muslims want to kill Muslims, I don’t think the majority in America have an opposing view.


34 posted on 09/10/2013 8:06:04 PM PDT by jyro (French-like Democrats wave the white flag of surrender while we are winning)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I was never under the impression that the Arabic version of AJ was quite this kooky. Is this just an English-version thing?


35 posted on 09/10/2013 8:07:23 PM PDT by eclecticEel (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness: 7/4/1776 - 3/21/2010)
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To: doc1019
Unless we are in the ME to help protect Israel, we should just keep our noses out of there

Well, how much does Israel want the Syrian depots, full of Sarin and other poisons, to be vaporized by US bombs? The winds will then spread the clouds of poison all over the area... and into Israel.

There is no telling where Assad keeps the CWs, and there is no telling what targets the US generals will pick. Some Syrian commanders may even intentionally preposition a few barrels at vulnerable spots of potential targets, so that when they are bombed and people die the USA can be dragged to the International Criminal Court for a war crime. (Think it can't happen?) It would be insane, from Israel's point of view, to allow the USA to mess with Israel's backyard when consequences may be catastrophic.

Removal of Syrian CWs is a definitely positive development, regardless of anything else. The CWs must be disclosed, inspected, guarded, and then preparations for destruction can start (IMO it will require building a local facility for destruction of CWs. It's hard to imagine carrying them for thousands of miles to the USA or Russia, where specialized facilities already exist.)

36 posted on 09/10/2013 8:20:50 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: driftless2

Kinzer cut his teeth on Nicaragua...


37 posted on 09/10/2013 8:38:37 PM PDT by GOPJ (Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts - Churchill)
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To: seowulf
It used to be easy to use the media to manipulate the public into supporting a war. After all, our government wouldn't really lie to us would it?

The NSA doesn't approve of your post.

38 posted on 09/10/2013 8:45:46 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: eclecticEel
I was never under the impression that the Arabic version of AJ was quite this kooky. Is this just an English-version thing?

I've heard the Arabic version is flat-out pro-al Qaeda (which does recycle a lot of Soviet-era anti-American propaganda recycled by Islamists, violent or not). The English version is al-Jazeera-lite.

39 posted on 09/10/2013 9:38:49 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

NO WAR FOR EGO


40 posted on 09/10/2013 9:39:37 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media. No Blood For Ego!)
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