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To: Veto!
We lost Los Angeles decades ago.

Los Angeles County never passed an ordinance making it illegal to arrest people for being in the country without proper documentation.

I know, I know, it's just a formality, but it does make a difference. San Francisco is effectively casting aside the very notion of state sovereignty, and welcoming the world into our country, regardless of their origins or condition.

It's the end result of having insisted for so long, that all cultures are equal. These people actually hate their own country, its history, its language, and everything it has stood for throughout its existence. The lofty and timeless precepts that America was founded upon, mean nothing to such people.

As California is increasingly filled with illiterate foreigners who care nothing for this country, and who are little more than blood sucking parasites, those liberals are getting what they asked for. The fools are throwing away something that took dozens of generations of hard work to build, all for the sake of fleeting feel good politics.

17 posted on 09/07/2013 9:54:24 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Yes, a tragedy. I love CA but could no longer live there after 1994. Well,maybe in Mendocino, but that’s a difficult place for reasons other than illegals. Now stuck in the far less beautiful state of WA, relegated to dreaming of the “land I love.”

I feel lucky that I raised my kids in CA when it was beautiful, when their public high school was ranked 8th in the nation and when it was safe to let them go to the beach for bonfires with their friends after dark.. Most assuredly CA has lost it’s ranking, it’s safety factor, it’s thriving economy.


18 posted on 09/07/2013 10:05:22 PM PDT by Veto!
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To: Windflier
As California is increasingly filled with illiterate foreigners who care nothing for this country, and who are little more than blood sucking parasites, those liberals are getting what they asked for. The fools are throwing away something that took dozens of generations of hard work to build, all for the sake of fleeting feel good politics.

I flew from San Fran to somewhere one afternoon. Seat mate was an uberlib Catholic seminarian whose mission in life was to help the poor downtrodden sickly frightened illegals from Mexico. He was so compassionate, so sincere. Nothing I could -- or you could-- say would dissuade him from his cause. And he had a point. The ARE frightened, abused, poverty stricken people.

But they are not OUR people. We can only take in so many immigrants. And we need to know who they are and where they are. Period.

Last week, someone posted a chart here, wish I had kept it. Showed the number of available jobs in the US. Then a column showing the number of Americans looking for jobs. Twice as high as the jobs available. Then it showed the number of immigrants OBozo wants to let in. It was maybe 8x as many people as the Americans already looking for jobs.

So the "compassionate ones" really need to be handed a pamphlet on the reality of letting in more people and taking care of them. How about the American Citizens who need help? Could we possibly persuade the Compassionate Class to help them?

Maybe. What would it take?

You know, Windflier, I love FR and have for years. So many bright people discussing so many important issues. But perhaps we need a sort of Martha Stewart how-to approach to training well-meaning people to help citizens. Help do what? Get jobs, train for jobs, support hungry American families, counsel them, pray for them-- all the services given to illegals are things we need for our own.

Thinking of North Idaho, a not very prosperous area, where citizens are in the lumber business for the most part. Then those trees are loaded with Japanese-made equipment onto flatcars to be shipped to (probably) China to be made into furniture or whatever , then shipped back to the US, polluting the sea as it travels back and forth, and then sold back to us. Why in the HELL can't people near the lumber business be the ones who craft the furniture and whatever else the end products are? Instead of collecting welfare bennies and food stamps? They'd be happier doing something constructive and the employed citizens would be happier NOT supporting them.

why don't they learn? Who can teach them? North Carolina had a fabulous furniture business using trees actually cut there.

Thank for listening, Windflier. I just needed to think that through for myself. I'm kind of a can-do how-to person. A little tired of just analyzing and complaining.

23 posted on 09/08/2013 2:20:41 AM PDT by Veto!
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