[Nowhere Man]

I think the 1965 immigration Act killed us, it (the propping up of the leftist vote) prevented and blocked the rightward swings back to normalcy.

Agreed. I think this was a big part of the downfall where it created more people with their hands out. I know on other thread, we might get into a tussle since I am somewhat more of a paleo-libertarian but I do not agree with the standard Libertarian party on immigration. We do need to take a 5 or 10 year time period, bring immigration to a zero or near zero (the only two exception, spousal visas and asylum seekers although the former, it would be the responsibility of the spouse bringing them over to support them), get our house in order, bring our jobs back, etc.

[ClearCase_guy]

We do need to take a 5 or 10 year time period

I respect that. I do have differences with Libertarians, but there are plenty of grounds upon which Conservatives and Libertarians agree -- we should work on what we share and put off till tomorrow the ideas that divide us.