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I haven't read Murray's book (I've read some reviews. It sounds like he didn't touch on a factor which I believe plays a large part in our societal decay, probably due to the brouhaha resulting when he devoted a whole book to that factor).

I do agree that the middle and upper-middle classes (which are shrinking, as we divide into a super-elite and an underclass, more and more) seem to have understood the importance of certain values, which they don't advocate for all of society. It's crazy, are they trying to get the whole civilised world to kill itself off? I don't believe there's this huge silent cohort of conservative people out there-they may live mostly according to conservative values, but they advocate and vote either left, or at best, "centrist". I also believe that the fact that there is a coalition of women and racial minority voters who all vote left, or at best (a lot of the women) "centrist", is responsible. (Especially the women in those middle classes-it irritates the heck out of me that they can't see that supporting detrimental values for "others" that they can see would have a negative effect on their own children, is going to get their own kids in the end). There are so many women who live the lives of fairly conservative values, but who vote for the weakest links to have easy access to other kinds of lives, which are only going to bring it all down on their own childrens' heads.