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Liberal Guilt, Public Education, My Clear Conscience
Townhall.com ^ | September 1, 2013 | James Allen

Posted on 09/01/2013 8:36:06 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 09/01/2013 8:36:06 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
In 2010, Barack Obama called for fixing the public education system by giving us the Elementary and Secondary Education Act and “Race to the Top,”

which he said would fix the education system already fixed by the 2001 GW Bush and Ted Kennedy legislation called “No Child Left Behind,”

which was supposed to fix a system supposedly already fixed by a 1994 piece of federal legislation called “Goals 2000,”

which was supposed to fix a system already fixed by “America 2000,”

which was a 1991 response during the Bush administration to a 1983 federal report on education called “A Nation at Risk,

which was published a full four years after Jimmy Carter first fixed the nation’s public school system by establishing a cabinet-level Department of Education in 1979.

2 posted on 09/01/2013 8:38:41 AM PDT by Maceman (Just say "NO" to tyranny.)
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To: Kaslin

How bizarre. They abort their children so that they don’t have to be bothered with them, and then they want to interfere with others’ children’s upbringing. People who feel qualified to direct other people’s lives are usually pretty screwed up themselves.


3 posted on 09/01/2013 8:53:47 AM PDT by Silentgypsy (:))
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To: Silentgypsy

That are the liberals for you


4 posted on 09/01/2013 8:54:58 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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Allison's essay...that sending your child to a private school is at best selfish and worst evil...was so idiotic that even most of those commenting on it at Democratic Underground were mocking it!

You know it's bad when a bunch of people at DU are saying, "Um...that's a little to collectivist even for us".

5 posted on 09/01/2013 8:55:37 AM PDT by Kip Russell (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Maceman

It looks like it’s never ending


6 posted on 09/01/2013 8:56:33 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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Liberals are squealing because private schools and vouchers threaten the mission of their public indoctrination centers.


7 posted on 09/01/2013 8:57:44 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Silentgypsy
People who feel qualified to direct other people’s lives are usually pretty screwed up themselves.

It always comes down to the desire to control others.

“Political tags — such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth — are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire. The former are idealists acting from highest motives for the greatest good of the greatest number. The latter are surly curmudgeons, suspicious and lacking in altruism. But they are more comfortable neighbors than the other sort.”
---Robert A. Heinlein

8 posted on 09/01/2013 8:57:50 AM PDT by Kip Russell (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Kip Russell

And that says it all


9 posted on 09/01/2013 8:57:59 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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after a terrible experience with my child inthe public school, seeing how the teacheres were pot heads, liberals adn the students had parents who were also pots heads or had found parents dead of heroin overdoses in one of the wealthiest towns in the country, I pulled the plug on that deal and sent my youngest to one of the best private day schools in the country. Imagine my disgust that most of them and their parents declare themselves to be liberals and atheists and that to their minds, any Christian is an extremest and not fashionable. These are the wealthiest people in the city and they actually think they get to keep all that stuff under a communist regime and maybe they do, since they are the power elite.

At least my child is still Christian.


10 posted on 09/01/2013 9:05:04 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Kaslin
It looks like it’s never ending

. . . and probably just a coincidence that public education has continuously gone down hill since 1979.

11 posted on 09/01/2013 9:24:58 AM PDT by Maceman (Just say "NO" to tyranny.)
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To: Kaslin
I've never seen anything in the Constitution that authorizes the feral government to have anything to do with education.

When we restore our lost constitutional republic, I believe we're going to want to draw up a long, long list of activities the national government is prohibited from sticking its big nose into.

12 posted on 09/01/2013 9:33:27 AM PDT by Standing Wolf (No tyrant should ever be allowed to die of natural causes.)
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When we restore our lost constitutional republic,

Wouldn't "If" be more accurate?

13 posted on 09/01/2013 9:41:22 AM PDT by Kip Russell (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Maceman

Truth be told, my son is getting a pretty good education from the local public school. The teachers are motivated (still) and indoctrination is at a minimum. Early on, there was some silliness with math. However, they have since locked in on the the original teaching methodologies of mathematics.

One could argue that my son is getting overwhelmed and there is too much. The work load for the past three years has been comparable to college. But that is okay with me to a point (my wife might disagree) because college isn’t for wimps.

Here is the secret: the parents. Both of us value education and teachers appreciate us a great deal for this.

IMHO: School is what you (or the parents) make of it.

One thing for new parents to look out for, though: Tools of the Mind. This is total BS in my opinion. Apparently, they only teach it in economically depressed areas. But it is crap. So our education system isn’t perfect. However, as involved parents, the school system would have had two very angry parents if they tried to teach it to our son.


14 posted on 09/01/2013 10:08:05 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Kip Russell

Ha! That makes me a surly curmudgeon. I like it. I like Heinlein! I love Christmas! Yay!


15 posted on 09/01/2013 10:21:30 AM PDT by Silentgypsy (:))
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Public schools have become nothing less than Federal Government Indoctrination Centers, performing at the Federal Government’s whim, and no longer providing a solid true academic educational base and preparation, for the real world, outside those ivory towers and school board fealties.

All the time, overpaid, over-rated, and coddled individuals, who call themselves “teachers”, many of whom are active Communists, indoctrinate our precious children, (and future voters deciding grandma’s and granddad’s longevity), in Super High Intensity Theorems, of which 99% have no function, other than to gauge the ability of the brain-washed child’s mind, to scoop up the avain-fashion-fed information.


16 posted on 09/01/2013 10:25:17 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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the public school alter

The word should be probably be altar unless the author is trying for some obscure play on the word for "change" or "make different" or unjustifiably trusts his spell checker to do his proofreading. That would be just lazy.

17 posted on 09/01/2013 11:00:31 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/econohttp://www.fee.org/library/det)
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To: headstamp 2

In part that’s true. If leftists can’t control children through endless indoctrination via public schools, they lose a MAJOR toll in their kit. One thing that shows how dumb they are though, is that parents who send their kids to private schools STILL have to pay taxes to the local public one. Leftists should be grateful because there is then more money spent per child than otherwise.


18 posted on 09/01/2013 11:04:18 AM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: Maceman

Excellent post!


19 posted on 09/01/2013 11:35:04 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: Kaslin
This is because liberals value community ...

I have to disagree, just as I have to disagree with those who say that liberals value equality. Their actions do not show them valuing community or equality. Their actions show them valuing control, and large institutions, such as government school systems, are a useful tool.

20 posted on 09/01/2013 12:06:38 PM PDT by Tax-chick (One drink away from telling everyone what I really think.)
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