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NFA firearms collectors group initiated ATF gun trust rule change
Gun Rights Examiner ^ | 30 August, 2013 | David Codrea

Posted on 08/30/2013 8:07:02 PM PDT by marktwain

The Obama administration’s proposed regulatory amendment regarding background checks for principal officers of gun trusts will still require a chief law enforcement officer sign-off, and the rule change itself was initiated by a petition from a group representing National Firearms Act gun collectors. That information comes from a draft Department of Justice notice made public this morning by firearms industry consulting attorney Joshua Prince.

Gun Rights Examiner reported on the proposed regulation change last Friday, relying on the government’s summary as posted on the Executive Office of the President’s Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs website, which stated:

The proposed regulations would (1) add a definition for the term "responsible person"; (2) require each responsible person of a corporation, trust or legal entity to complete a specified form, and to submit photographs and fingerprints; (3) require that a copy of all applications to make or transfer a firearm be forwarded to the chief law enforcement officer (CLEO) of the locality in which the maker or transferee is located; and (4) eliminate the requirement for a certification signed by the CLEO.

While this column expressed concerns for the new requirements, commentators weighed in emphasizing the benefits of doing away with the CLEO signature requirement, as the current state of affairs allows a police chief or sheriff to ignore the application, thus halting the firearms transfer. The change was thus represented by some as a tradeoff worth making.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; batfe; guncontrol; rulechange; secondamendment; trust
As to be expected with this administration, what is proposed is the worst of both situations. Much more regulations for trusts, and extend the CLEO requirements to everyone.
1 posted on 08/30/2013 8:07:02 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Dear National Firearms Act Trade and Collectors Association,

Oh, I’m sorry. Did you guys think this administration was actually interested in making firearm ownership EASIER?
What are you guys, a bunch of idiots?
The goal is to always, always, always inch ever closer to making the private ownership of ANY firearm a felony in the United States. Period. They will never give up until every single firearm in America belongs to the government. There is no ‘good faith.’ There is no ‘working together.’
With Leftists it is always a case of two wolves and a sheep deciding what’s for dinner.

Why is that so hard to understand?


2 posted on 08/30/2013 8:19:13 PM PDT by servo1969
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To: marktwain

>>”While this column expressed concerns for the new requirements, commentators weighed in emphasizing the benefits of doing away with the CLEO signature requirement, as the current state of affairs allows a police chief or sheriff to ignore the application, thus halting the firearms transfer. The change was thus represented by some as a tradeoff worth making.

“Unfortunately, we just obtained a copy of the 62-page proposal and the above statement is a false depiction of the actual proposal, as everyone was made to believe that the CLEO signature requirement would be eliminated in exchange for additional regulations on fictitious entities,” Prince explained. “ATF will NOT be eliminating the CLEO requirement and instead IMPOSING it on ALL entities.”<<

As usual, LIES = the Obama Administration


3 posted on 08/30/2013 8:24:24 PM PDT by B4Ranch (AGENDA: Grinding America Down ----- http://vimeo.com/63749370)
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To: marktwain

Horse manure! NFA is unconstitutional and rules changes only compound the issue. I don’t collect guns. I have guns for only one reason.

Government has turned machine guns into collector status. Their unconstitutional laws have made machine guns extinct for any purpose other than a limited number of old worn out collector guns that cost the moon and your first born.

...and the government? There in itself is a question to contemplate. they are everywhere and they are armed. they get the latest and greatest at whose expense? To be used on whom?


4 posted on 08/30/2013 8:45:47 PM PDT by wita
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5 posted on 08/30/2013 9:07:03 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: marktwain

Exactly. Disagree that this was a worthwhile “trade”.


6 posted on 08/30/2013 9:40:37 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Still Thinking

Serves the “kinda rich guys” right.


7 posted on 08/30/2013 11:13:09 PM PDT by CarmichaelPatriot
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At their website. . . National Firearms Act Trade and Collectors Association

“There is also a lot of consternation over today’s (08/29/2013) Presidential executive action item regarding trusts and corps. We have been keeping you up to date on this. It STILL must go through the official rule making process in order to become real.

As soon as it hits the Federal Register, everyone MUST voice their opposition. Otherwise, fingerprints and photos will be required for responsible persons, however that gets defined.”

http://www.nfatca.org/


8 posted on 08/30/2013 11:48:57 PM PDT by deks ("...the battle...liberty against the overreach of the federal government" Ken Cuccinelli)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Ping!


9 posted on 08/31/2013 2:44:13 AM PDT by basil (2ASisters.org)
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To: marktwain

Many on “our side” are naïve fools who hope to carve a little reprieve for themselves, even if it hurts everyone else.

Just like the Jim Zumbo incident, there are plenty of firearm owners who would be happy to deny everyone else a firearm because they have theirs.

It’s like wealthy liberals who are OK with taxing income because their assets cannot be touched.


10 posted on 08/31/2013 4:11:40 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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