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NYC Engineer Wants to Help Homeless Man With Software Coding Classes
ABC Yahoo ^ | Aug 23, 2013 | JOANNA STERN

Posted on 08/24/2013 3:52:54 PM PDT by Innovative

McConlogue approached Leo, a 36-year man who lives on the streets of lower Manhattan, on Thursday and gave him two options.

The first was $100 in cash.

The second option on the table was a laptop, three JavaScript books and two months of coding instruction from McConlogue.

Soon, McConlogue will deliver him a Samsung Chromebook with 3G connectivity, three JavaScript books, a solar charger for the laptop and something to conceal the laptop in. He will spend an hour before work every morning teaching him the basics of software coding.

(Excerpt) Read more at gma.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: New York
KEYWORDS: classes; computers; engineer; homeless; software
Sure the guy isn't stupid -- a laptop is worth more than $100.

I can't wait to see if he is still going to be there for the coding classes after he gets the laptop in his possession.

I hope they will do a follow up article on it.

Do you remember, when someone bought a homeless person a pair of boots, then the guy didn't wear it, then it turned out he had several pairs at home, or something along those lines... i.e. he was not homeless.

I found the article: Barefoot man given boots by NYPD officer not homeless on that one.

1 posted on 08/24/2013 3:52:54 PM PDT by Innovative
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To: Innovative
Step #1 should be get the homeless guy *off* the booze/drugs and/or get him *on* the psych meds he’s supposed to be taking.
2 posted on 08/24/2013 3:55:58 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If Obama Had A City It Would Look Like Detroit)
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To: Innovative

Lets say he learns coding, who will give him a job without that precious piece of paper?


3 posted on 08/24/2013 3:58:01 PM PDT by Husker24
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To: Innovative

Only takes one do-gooder to mess things up. The original quote was better, but I can’t recall.


4 posted on 08/24/2013 3:58:50 PM PDT by Track9 (hey Kalid.. kalid.. bang you're dead)
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To: Innovative

sounds great! anyone can write software!

I don’t know what I wasted for years of college for...

I’ll be sure to call him when I need an advanced algorithm to calculate the change in frequency as a laser scans across the diffraction grating to determine a chemical reaction.


5 posted on 08/24/2013 3:59:15 PM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: Innovative

I was chatting with a fellow gym rat today. He told me his mother was on welfare and she “earned” her money by trading her EBT card. I asked how and he said, “Well, one of the things is to buy somebody $100 worth of groceries and they give you $50. But there are other ways.” The subject was changed by somebody else and I didn’t ask about the other ways. However, not far from my house is the “EBT Motel.”

The point is, you can’t really help most of these people. They don’t want “help.”


6 posted on 08/24/2013 4:00:14 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Innovative

Chromebook costs $200.


7 posted on 08/24/2013 4:05:20 PM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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Well an idealistic 23 year old is hardly the type to be a good sifter of humanity as to who is a good candidate for this. But assuming the black man is a good candidate. The 23 year old is going to have to ferry the job candidate to interviews, be his reference the whole 9 yards else its just an exercise in futility, not to mention the hurdles a black man with no degree or equivalent formal educ/experience will have to overcome. IT jobs...programmers/coders are not exactly ripe with either women and blacks.

I applaud the helper, it is truly a gracious deed.
Just hope both sides fulfill what is needed.

Around my area, I just hand out blankets, odds and ends clothes/shoes and food money occassionally to those who really need it and arent’ just standing around collecting up money. The lowest of the low. And the lowest of the low are sometimes so snaggle toothed and grisly that even if they cleaned up, no one would hire them, nor would they be qualified for anything....for these I buy them a beer!


8 posted on 08/24/2013 4:05:40 PM PDT by RBStealth
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To: All

The article also had a link to the sw engineer’s blog, where he has documented the story so far and intends to continue.

https://medium.com/architecting-a-life/fee8f3ee97a0

As I said, I can hardly wait...


9 posted on 08/24/2013 4:08:05 PM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Gen.Blather

This has happened to me in California.

A late-40s male (white) wearing a Hawaii shirt and cargo shorts approached me in the store (Pavilions, in Santa Clarita) and said he’d buy me groceries worth $150 if I gave him $50 in cash. I shooed him off, thinking he’s insane or mentally ill.

I guess he was playing the same scam.


10 posted on 08/24/2013 4:08:05 PM PDT by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: Mr. K

spectroscopy, wrote software for that!


11 posted on 08/24/2013 4:08:54 PM PDT by RBStealth
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To: Innovative

It sounds like the guy means well, but most people don’t have the cognitive tools required to do “programming” with any degree of usefulness.

That often goes unmentioned in public debate. The polite assumption we’re supposed to make is that “anyone can do anything” if they “work hard” or “put their mind to it.”

That’s simply wrong, though. You run into cognitive limits, and that’s that. We recognize this on the margins - we don’t really believe that “anyone can be a mathematician” - it is seen as something that takes a lot of brainpower that many people lack.

But we refuse to look further down the scale at tasks that don’t take as much raw intelligence as abstract math, but which still DO take more than a lot of people have.


12 posted on 08/24/2013 4:11:00 PM PDT by seacapn
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To: Gay State Conservative

Exactly. Its kind of hard to learn anything, especially if it involves logic, when you have a monkey on your back.


13 posted on 08/24/2013 4:13:16 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: Mr. K
sounds great! anyone can write software! I don’t know what I wasted for years of college for... I’ll be sure to call him when I need an advanced algorithm to calculate the change in frequency as a laser scans across the diffraction grating to determine a chemical reaction.

I, on the other hand, will call him when I cannot determine how to stop an onmouseover crosssite scripting without employing serverside IIS filtering, or to help me determine why people are getting invalid sessionstates in one IIS Application Pool but not the other, or if I need him to help me defend against a cross-site request forgery without the aid of session number. Also, he can assist me in the creation of object-oriented parameter screen objects that have all the parameter rules imbedded in the object, and that can be used very similar to a repeater.

Thank goodness for the homeless!

14 posted on 08/24/2013 4:13:52 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Gen.Blather

After I graduated from college in the midwest, I moved to California for my first engineering job. Getting an engineering degree is really hard work and your first job out of school never pays much, but you do what you have to to get on the first rung of the ladder.

I went skiing in the Sierras and had the pleasure of sitting next to a guy on the lift who was in his mid 20s, just a couple years older than me. We got to chatting, naturally, about what we do. He was a welfare bum in the winter and summer and worked just enough in the spring to buy a new surfboard and in the fall to buy a new pair of skis and a season lift ticket. During summer and winter he lived off the government teat. After grinding out my engineering degree and working 70 hour weeks, I was ready to chuck him right out of the chair lift onto the rocks below. But I did restrain myself.

I can reliably trace my conservative core to that day (and a couple years later spending seven months in communist China).


15 posted on 08/24/2013 4:16:50 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

But I did restrain myself.

_____________________

Too bad. We’re still supporting the moocher, I would bet.


16 posted on 08/24/2013 4:17:59 PM PDT by Chickensoup
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To: All

17 posted on 08/24/2013 4:20:14 PM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Lazamataz; Mr. K

I could have used him when I was in engineering school when I was coding the Newton-Raphson method to find successively better approximations to the roots of a real-valued functions. He would have been an outstanding tutor, but “Learn Ebonics in 30 Days” would have been a prerequisite to hiring him. Too bad that Stephen Wolfram took all the fun out of solving those problems.


18 posted on 08/24/2013 4:31:41 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Innovative

The one on the left is the software engineer, correct? /s


19 posted on 08/24/2013 4:31:42 PM PDT by Ken522
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To: Mr. K

You wrote:
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I’ll be sure to call him when I need an advanced algorithm to calculate the change in frequency as a laser scans across the diffraction grating to determine a chemical reaction.
+++++++++++++

In JavaScript? Good luck with that...


20 posted on 08/24/2013 4:31:46 PM PDT by PrairieDawg
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To: Mr. K

...which is why I don’t do websites or write (notice I wrote “write”, not code), standalone software anymore. Coding is task mastery. Designing algorithms or thinking at hardware/system levels is a science and an art.


21 posted on 08/24/2013 4:34:16 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

So, we’ve progressed...from “taking in each others laundry” to “coding each others websites”. Hmmm.


22 posted on 08/24/2013 4:36:31 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: PrairieDawg

“You wrote:
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I’ll be sure to call him when I need an advanced algorithm to calculate the change in frequency as a laser scans across the diffraction grating to determine a chemical reaction.
+++++++++++++

In JavaScript? Good luck with that...”

Sure, no problemo, just run it on better hardware...

</sarc>


23 posted on 08/24/2013 4:37:33 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: AppyPappy

It’s not what it costs, it’s what he can fence it for. I mean “fo”.


24 posted on 08/24/2013 4:40:22 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: Innovative

Anyone can code — it is an avocation.

Only those with a combination of talent, background and skills can design what is to be coded.


25 posted on 08/24/2013 4:46:48 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (US Military's anti-Christianity: Moral slavery is slavery nonetheless)
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To: Mr. K
I don’t know what I wasted for years of college for...

Neither do we.........LOL!

26 posted on 08/24/2013 4:59:34 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (')
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To: Innovative

It’s a chromebook so its worth 101 dollars.


27 posted on 08/24/2013 5:14:49 PM PDT by aft_lizard
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To: Gen.Blather

What is an EBT hotel?


28 posted on 08/24/2013 5:47:18 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: Wally_Kalbacken

Yeah, how long before this guy cashes the laptop in and tells the guy, “Someone stole it so can I have another one?”

Then, when the guy gives him another, he beats him to death, steals his wallet and car, and hits the road.

He looks as if someone smacked him across the bridge of his nose with a pipe.


29 posted on 08/24/2013 5:56:33 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: James C. Bennett

That’s just a Pavilions employee as most items there are marked up three times and he’s just making up the difference. s/


30 posted on 08/24/2013 6:01:58 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: Gen.Blather

I actually saw on Craigslist about an ad about having someone go the Philippines and help set up an IT infrastructure so this “poor fishing village” will be taught how to code.

I go the RP every year and knowing that province, this dude must be wanting to teach kids to code for cheap and eventually made a s a service.


31 posted on 08/24/2013 6:04:23 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: The Antiyuppie
Designing algorithms or thinking at hardware/system levels is a science and an art.

Most people have no idea. Me, I went from Basic to Assembly language, and I have concluded that really the vast majority of people just can not make the jump necessary to program in straight machine code.

You can teach most people how to read sheet music, but there is no blippin' way you can teach everyone how to sing. And by "sing", I do not include the recently-popular chanting done to a heavy beat commonly known as "rap" *cough* music *cough*. I refer to REAL singing. With actual lyrics and a passable tune.

32 posted on 08/24/2013 6:11:32 PM PDT by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Step #1 should be get the homeless guy *off* the booze/drugs and/or get him *on* the psych meds he’s supposed to be taking.

***
Bingo!


33 posted on 08/24/2013 6:17:12 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Let me hear what God the LORD will speak. -Ps85)
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To: Lazamataz
I, on the other hand, will call him when I cannot determine...

His first words would be, "Yeah, Laz, but would you hit it?"

Oh, no, I mean his first words would be, "What dat 'parameter' shit, mah main? That some skydiving jive? By the way, you a computer main, can you tell me how tuh kill all the Five-O in level one of 'Car Thief I'?"

34 posted on 08/24/2013 6:17:24 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Husker24

With a few weeks of training, this guy will probably be about as good as many of the ‘software professionals’ that you’ll find on fiverr.com. While many of them may actually be good coders, there are quite a few ‘wannabes’ as well.


35 posted on 08/24/2013 6:18:21 PM PDT by Bob
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To: seacapn

Well, said.


36 posted on 08/24/2013 6:20:31 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Let me hear what God the LORD will speak. -Ps85)
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To: max americana

LOL!


37 posted on 08/24/2013 6:39:16 PM PDT by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: Mr. K
perhaps business software...

And yup, if you're talented, you can even make 6 figures doing it without 'wasting years' getting a liberal indoctrination.

38 posted on 08/24/2013 6:46:32 PM PDT by SwankyC (Democrats and Republicans agree, govt coercion is OK if it fits your idea of whats OK)
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To: Innovative

39 posted on 08/24/2013 6:49:20 PM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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To: Innovative
It would be better to buy the homeless guy $100 worth of painting tools and teach him how to paint interiors.

There are many way shorter paths to success than writing code - particularly when programmers here in the USA have to compete globally. Why hire the novice programmer who knows a little javascript when you could hire an experienced, college educated software engineer in India for $12.00 per hour?

There is fierce competition for entry level programming jobs, but less so for many trades. And if you can, for example, paint an apartment decently and quickly, you'll be earning cash in days. And nobody will ask for your social security number, or anything else other than "when can you get it done by?" Nor will they care if you show up in a dirty pair of jeans and a torn shirt.

40 posted on 08/24/2013 7:10:08 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Gen.Blather

Used to do it myself - those on EBTs would pay me in groceries generally for transportation. Sucks, but you do what you have to do.


41 posted on 08/24/2013 7:32:08 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge
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To: Husker24
Lets say he learns coding, who will give him a job without that precious piece of paper?

A lot of the very best coders have no degrees... If he can find a company - even a temp agency - who's willing to give him a test, it could be a first step.

A guy I worked with when I was first starting in IT (teaching myself unix out of the Bell Labs "phone book" and Steven Bourne's "Russian Doll" book, and K&R C, 1st edition.) This guy was a top notch coder, writing entire DBMS using C. He was brought up around computers, and we worked for his father. He had problems getting a job with AT&T - They wouldn't touch him w/o a degree, but the managers REALLY wanted him. The AT&T managers found a temp agency to hire him, and he wound up working as a contractor for AT&T for really good money.

Mark

42 posted on 08/24/2013 8:20:48 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Innovative

I remember when I gave a “starving” homeless guy in Penn Station (NYC) $5, and then watched as he went right to the store and grabbed a six pack of tall boys.


43 posted on 08/24/2013 8:26:35 PM PDT by montag813 (NO AMNESTY * ENFORCE THE LAW * http://StandWithArizona.com)
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To: tbw2

“What is an EBT hotel?”

They’re saying they’ll take your EBT card instead of cash for a place to stay.


44 posted on 08/25/2013 3:18:37 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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