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Stop and Frisk Doesn't Target Minorities, It Protects Them
Townhall.com ^ | August 23, 2013 | Michael Barone

Posted on 08/23/2013 5:19:37 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 08/23/2013 5:19:37 AM PDT by Kaslin
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Meanwhile the new Detroit police chief has announced that he is restarting the stop and frisk policy they have but haven't used for years.

Detroit traffic cops learning stop and frisk tactics
2 posted on 08/23/2013 5:25:20 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

There’s no way Detroit’s policy won’t target minorities.


3 posted on 08/23/2013 5:32:18 AM PDT by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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“The effectiveness of this police practice, initiated by Mayor Rudy Giuliani in 1994 and continued by Mayor Michael Bloomberg, is not in doubt. The number of homicides — the most accurately measured crime — in New York fell from a peak of 2,605 in 1990 to 952 in 2001, Giuliani’s last year in office, to just 414 in 2012.”.......

If it isn’t broke, why fix it”? If there is nothing to hide (weapons in this case) then I’d suggest the “Stop and Frisk” is a GOOD thing. I’ll bet those who have been mugged would support it.


4 posted on 08/23/2013 5:37:58 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: Progov

NY is not YET Detroit until they have complete black leadership in control.


5 posted on 08/23/2013 5:41:27 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: umgud

That’s OK, most of the cops are black too so you won’t hear much about it.

For that matter, kinda odd how Detroit leads the nation in defensive shootings by a wide margin but you never hear about it. Seems that stand your ground and open carry are beneficial to blacks in Detroit so the left desperately avoids talking about it.


6 posted on 08/23/2013 5:43:12 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Kaslin

Sorry, Michael. What is it about “probable cause” that you don’t understand? This is NOT a police state in which innocent citizens have to justify their existence to a bunch of goons. Tyranny makes me safer only at the cost of my liberty.


7 posted on 08/23/2013 5:47:16 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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Most of the victims of black crime are fellow blacks - people working for a living. People who are afraid to ‘snitch’... They want the thugs off the streets more than we do...


8 posted on 08/23/2013 5:56:32 AM PDT by GOPJ (- - NSA - The only part of government that actually listens...Joe Kovacs)
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To: umgud
Please check your demographics for urban Detroit...

The "stop-n-frisk" policy will certainly be for the (local) majority population---

just say'n...

9 posted on 08/23/2013 5:56:53 AM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: IronJack

I agree; stop & frisk is indefensible to anyone who believes in individual rights. Giuliani lowered crime in NYC with a PC police force that simply did their jobs. They got most of the crap off the street by simply busting them for the little crimes they engaged in (turnstyle-hopping, public urination, whatever), rather than simply ignoring the smaller crimes with the excuse that there were more important crimes to deal with.


10 posted on 08/23/2013 5:57:33 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Progov
“The effectiveness of this police practice, initiated by Mayor Rudy Giuliani in 1994 and continued by Mayor Michael Bloomberg, is not in doubt. The number of homicides — the most accurately measured crime — in New York fell from a peak of 2,605 in 1990 to 952 in 2001, Giuliani’s last year in office, to just 414 in 2012.”.......

If it isn’t broke, why fix it”? If there is nothing to hide (weapons in this case) then I’d suggest the “Stop and Frisk” is a GOOD thing. I’ll bet those who have been mugged would support it.

Detroit's 1990 criminal homicides amounted to 595 cases, whereas its 2011 number was 344. On a per capita basis, the murder rate dropped from 58 cases per 100K population to 48 cases per 100K population. NYC's number went from 31 cases per 100K population in 1990 to 6 cases per 100K population in 2011.

11 posted on 08/23/2013 5:58:04 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Progov

Gun control was a “good thing” as long as it was only applied to minorities.

That’s how it was in the South, post-reconstruction.


12 posted on 08/23/2013 6:05:49 AM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: Kaslin

Bye bye Constitution. It was nice knowing you. Stop and frisk: It’s for the children!


13 posted on 08/23/2013 6:06:06 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Progov
If it isn’t broke, why fix it”? If there is nothing to hide (weapons in this case) then I’d suggest the “Stop and Frisk” is a GOOD thing. I’ll bet those who have been mugged would support it.

I will never welcome being stopped by the police and frisked. Its unconstitutional and free people shouldn't tolerate it. I most certainly don't want my wife and daughters being stopped and groped.

Its a finger in the dike approach to a vast cultural problem.

If there is nothing to hide (weapons in this case) then I’d suggest the “Stop and Frisk” is a GOOD thing.

Then why have a requirement for search warrants at all?

14 posted on 08/23/2013 6:08:23 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Kaslin
Probable cause is what? Being outside? Being in public?

Think of the good we could do and how much safer we'd all be if we just did away with the Constitution all together!

These tactics may do some good, but also look like some of what the Constitution was written to protect us from.

I don't think DUI checkpoints are legal, either. Same for random drug testing.

And don't get me started on the TSA pat down and grope.

15 posted on 08/23/2013 6:23:13 AM PDT by GBA (Our obamanation: Romans 1:18-32)
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“If there is nothing to hide (weapons in this case) then I’d suggest the “Stop and Frisk” is a GOOD thing”

I agree 100%. There’s absolutely no reason anyone should have ANY rights as long as it gives us a sense of security.


16 posted on 08/23/2013 6:24:04 AM PDT by green iguana
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Barone doubles down on the American Police State. The same beacon of GOP-e loving brilliance who predicted a Romney landslide by almost 100 EV's.



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17 posted on 08/23/2013 6:38:25 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: GBA

Fine. If this country was suddenly deluged with a spate of suicide bombers who wore their dynamite vests under coats not plainly observable to the naked eye, and all the people caught with the vests or identified after they blew themselves (and possibly scores of other people) up were determined to be of swarthy-looking-middle-eastern ancestry, would you support stop and frisk on those individuals?


18 posted on 08/23/2013 6:38:50 AM PDT by driftless2
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So how many of you live in Detroit?

The hypocrisy of FReepers cracks me up sometimes. Throw a tantrum about the fact that the TSA gives granny a rectal exam to avoid profiling muslims and then turn right around and pretend to be concerned about racial profiling.

Don’t like it, don’t live in those places.


19 posted on 08/23/2013 6:39:53 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Kaslin

Democrats want to keep minorities poor and dependent on government. Keeping their crime rate high helps to achieve their goal.


20 posted on 08/23/2013 6:47:37 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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