Posted on 08/19/2013 6:17:17 PM PDT by kristinn
If the red underlined “and” in subsection (3) is or should be construed as “or” then the question is: were his parents admitted for “permanent residence”? If yes then Cruz is in law a “natural born citizen” of Canada. If no then he is not a “natural born citizen” of Canada, although he may be a citizen under a different provision.
GRANDPARENTS??? Sheesh, how far back do you want to go?
I was born in the U.S. To a father who was (and is) a non-citizen. Although he is a U.S. Army veteran. I’m a U.S. Air Force Veteran myself. And if it was up to you I wouldn’t be eligible to be POTUS?
‘and’ is correct!
The section is addressing diplomats children. So the negation applies if you are the child of a diplomat (normal stuff) AND your parents HAVE NOT applied for permanent Canadian citizenship. This is reversed from who it reads in the statute. But it hopefully is clearer. It only applies to children of diplomats.
I guess it is possible to have parents who are still diplomats but also have applied to become Canadians.
So a child of military parents should be punished just because they happened to be serving their country overseas?? I think thats wrong and anti-military (and i say this as no fan of McCain’s)
Here is the way this works Jeff, You are entitled to your opinion, no matter how stupid it is. Now, do you really think you will change my mind?
Do you remember being born in this country? Does said memory, in the highly unlikely event it actually exists, have the slightest influence on your political attitudes?
Yieks! That is a good point.
Wilson FDR Kennedy LBJ Nixon Carter Bush, HW Clinton
And, those are just the biggest loser/a-holes from the 20th century.
We need to face the fact that for the most part, our presidents suck. No offense, but I'm more concerned about that than I am about where a person's parents or grand-parents were born.
...and we KNOW what that has gotten us in the past...
No, I believe that the voters and the electors they choose will be required to select a candidate who is a "natural born citizen." As in all of our prior elections, they will be obligated by the Constitution to apply that same standard.
And, they will. ;-)
Who are you, Bill Clinton?
"And" means "and" in the law, and always has since the dawn of Law itself. If "and" might not mean "and," then what meaning does any part of the law have anywhere in the world?
Neither DID I.
Why open the door?
"Why open the door?" - Are you kidding? The door has been open for 5 years now. Only way to close the door now is to remove the fraud from the WH before his term ends and prosecute. Short of that, even George Soros qualifies in this post President "Obama" nation.
The only way to close the door is to elect a Republican, who’s an American, born in America. Not jam the door even further open.
“McCain was born in Panama”
McCain was born in the United States.
I agree. The passage is worded a bit awkwardly, in my opinion. I was closing off any argument that Cruz is not a citizen of Canada.
Fantastic.
Voters do not decide eligibility, the law does.
Electors are empowered by our Constitution to choose our presidents, but our Constitution obligates them to choose an eligible person. I believe that voters are also obligated to vote only for candidates that they deem to be eligible under the Constitution.
That's the way it has always worked and I see no need to change now.
Ted Cruz - 2016
Our government is not a democracy, matters of law are not determined by plebiscite, eligibility is a matter of law - not popular whim.
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