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To: taxcontrol
This was later clarified (by Congress) to require only one US citizen parent who has lived in the US for the required number of years.

Clarified? Next thing we know they are gonna "clarify" 11 million illegals into "natural born citizens."

The Constitution specifically grants in Article 1 section 8 the power to Congress to make the rules of naturalization.

And once more, you are going to cite the power to "Naturalize" in an effort to prove that someone is a "natural citizen." ?

You are advocating a theory that leaves the meaning permanently open ended. In other words, it means whatever congress says it means. That is nonsense. It has a fixed meaning that was understood in 1787 and cannot be changed by Congress by passing a law.

94 posted on 08/19/2013 11:11:44 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp

What is nonsense is your attempt to deny Congress a power expressly reserved to them by the Constitution.

You should also take into account the last sentence of Article 1 Section 8:

To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

But enough of me citing the Constitution, historical facts, and laws of the land. Your turn to start citing references to support your position.


103 posted on 08/19/2013 11:33:52 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: DiogenesLamp; taxcontrol
You are advocating a theory that leaves the meaning permanently open ended. In other words, it means whatever congress says it means. That is nonsense. It has a fixed meaning that was understood in 1787 and cannot be changed by Congress by passing a law.

And that meaning was revealed when in 1790, George Washington, who presided over the Constitutional Convention, and the Congress, many of whom helped produce the Constitution just 3 years earlier, decided to pass and sign the Naturalization Law of 1790 in which they used the expression "natural born citizen" to describe a child born overseas to US citizen parents.

That is a fact. It is an irreversible fact. The Founders used natural born citizen to describe a born overseas citizen.

One off the cuff remark many make at this information is that Congress repealed the 1790 law and replaced it with the 1795 law. First, that has nothing to do with the fact that Congress saw fit to use the term "natural born citizen" to describe a "born overseas citizen".

Second, Most laws that are replaced are repealed. The replacement was much more lengthy and detailed.

Significantly, though, when Congress was making the initial laws of the land, when they had to be concise, precise, and get right to the most important issues, they recognized bloodline citizenship as natural born citizenship.

116 posted on 08/19/2013 12:05:37 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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