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Army colonel: Physical strength not the end-all, be-all of combat service
The Washington Times ^ | August 12, 2013 | Rowan Scarborough

Posted on 08/12/2013 11:52:28 AM PDT by jazusamo

An Army officer writing in a prestigious journal says the services should not overemphasize physical strength when deciding whether a woman qualifies for direct ground combat.

Col. Ellen Haring, on the staff of the U.S. Army War College, says commanders need to downplay obstacle courses and judge a service member’s ability to stay calm and think quickly.

The Pentagon has lifted its ban on women serving in the infantry, tanks and special operations, and the branches are examining all their physical standards in preparation for introducing women into these units in 2015.

Some military analysts fear the Pentagon will discard some standards to ensure that a significant number of women qualify.

“Perhaps it is time to take a hard look at what really makes a competent combat soldier and not rely on traditional notions of masculine brawn that celebrate strength over other qualities,” Col. Haring says in the current issue of Armed Forces Journal.

She cites World War II hero Audie Murphy and North Vietnamese insurgents as examples of small people who came up big on the battlefield.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: combat; pcmilitary; women; womenincombat
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Col. Haring, who had sued the Pentagon over its old exclusion policy

No surprise this female Army Col. is a PC activist, she assumes a lot about the most decorated soldier in WWII and we know what assume means in the Army.

1 posted on 08/12/2013 11:52:28 AM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

I looked to see if this article was from 10 years ago. The dumbing down of military standards has been in place for some time now.

And since Obama green-flagged the faggots to join.... Its a free-fall.


2 posted on 08/12/2013 11:55:09 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: jazusamo

It’s over. Fold up the tents, go home, and wait for the end.


3 posted on 08/12/2013 11:55:19 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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Col. Ellen Haring

Stopped reading right there. Anyone who has been there on the ground in the dirt at the pointy end of the spear know women and children do not belong there. Not some REMF touchy-feely female (or male) man-hater with a chip-on-shoulder mindset.

4 posted on 08/12/2013 11:56:57 AM PDT by Utilizer (Ba-con Ah'hkkba'aar! <- In muzlim world, men=men and goats=nervous. ->)
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To: jazusamo

This is an example of preemptive excuse-making at its finest (or worst, in my view).


5 posted on 08/12/2013 11:58:02 AM PDT by Bob
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To: Responsibility2nd

You’re so right


6 posted on 08/12/2013 11:58:48 AM PDT by jazusamo ("I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white." T. Sowell)
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To: jazusamo
Well, let's see how many women volunteer, qualifies, experience combat and let's evaluate how they're doing.
It's bad that men and women will lose their lives over this experiment but I believe this will eventually be a self-correcting problem.
We will either find number of really good kickass ladies or ... not.

7 posted on 08/12/2013 12:00:42 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: jazusamo

Wait until the maimed female bodies start coming back (beyond the ones who are in support roles now).

Will there be accusations of machismo against the enemy for not playing fair?


8 posted on 08/12/2013 12:01:00 PM PDT by freedumb2003 ("Task" is a noun. "Ask" is a verb. "Disconnect" is a noun. "Data" is a plural-not collective-noun.)
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To: jazusamo
No it's not EVERYTHING..any SEAL will tell ya that..but r we willing to risk planes full of body bags to find out???
Wonder how SUCKING chest wounds will be dealt with???
9 posted on 08/12/2013 12:01:04 PM PDT by Paul46360
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To: jazusamo
An Army officer writing in a prestigious journal says the services should not overemphasize physical strength when deciding whether a woman qualifies for direct ground combat.

Ah yes... now come the rationalizations to explain away the strength differentials.

10 posted on 08/12/2013 12:01:14 PM PDT by ScottinVA (If you don't care about Antonio Santiago, sure as hell don't whine about Trayvon Martin.)
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Wonder if she'd feel this way if her 230# brother died of his wounds in Trashcanistan because the 110# female couldn't haul his ass out of the line of fire?

That said, she's probably all eaten up with PC to the point where his death was a worthy sacrifice on the alter of PC.

Tragically, that INSANITY reaches all levels of the military and applies to all sorts of other madness.

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Correctness:

”A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

By spreading this definition around, perhaps we can employ one of the more effective methods of deflating and defeating the fools who practice and promote it: RIDICULE.

Unless stopped – and soon – PC will DESTROY Western Civilization -- if it hasn’t already.

PASS IT ON!!

Political THEN PASS THE KOOL AID!!

11 posted on 08/12/2013 12:01:36 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (“To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.”- Voltaire)
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To: jazusamo

This policy is insane and it tells me much that the Republicans went along with it.


12 posted on 08/12/2013 12:01:51 PM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: jazusamo

Colonel Harey can kiss my ass. How many two way range combat ops has she been in the middle of? NONE. Eff her.


13 posted on 08/12/2013 12:02:35 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: Bob

Amen to that.


14 posted on 08/12/2013 12:03:35 PM PDT by jazusamo ("I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white." T. Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

Audie Murphy during his time went through a lot of obstacle courses in his training. He would have had no problem doing any today. This female soldier is deluding herself if you can discount traditional training methods.


15 posted on 08/12/2013 12:04:51 PM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: jazusamo

While this might be true for modern combat, women should still not serve in that capacity. Full disclosure: I’m a woman.


16 posted on 08/12/2013 12:05:19 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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17 posted on 08/12/2013 12:05:22 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: jazusamo

Was when I was there.

I would take 100 Audie Murphy types over any bull-dyke types.


18 posted on 08/12/2013 12:05:32 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: freedumb2003

“Wait until the maimed female bodies start coming back ....”

That’s what the anti-war crowd is counting on.


19 posted on 08/12/2013 12:05:44 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: ScottinVA

When troops start dying after these recommendations are implemented, look for the blame to be placed anywhere but on those who advocated and/or approved this policy. They will be safely promoted or retired.


20 posted on 08/12/2013 12:06:04 PM PDT by rbg81
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