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To: PapaBear3625
It is an article of faith among marxists/leftists that Man is malleable and perfectible, the notion first being promoted by 18th Century precursors of Marx, like Rousseau, Saint-Simon, Hegel, and others. If people are malleable and perfectible, then the only reason why they are not currently perfect is because of an imperfect environment. If the environment is made "perfect", though the action of the State, then a society of perfect people will result.

You have put the Jacobin/Marxist/Bolshevik/Nazi day dream in the most favorable light, even though you obviously recognize that it is a false premise for political or social direction. But, in doing so, you give it more respectability, than it actually deserves. The reason people persist in a notion that has been endlessly disproven in the terrible results from policy formulated on that premise, is emotional not rational.

No one who has ever sat in a classroom can really believe--at least in their sub-conscious--in the possibility of equal mental aptitudes. We need to understand the compulsive--that is, neurotic drive--behind the frenzy to pursue equality in a world where there is no equality of potential--why Leftists never learn from the common experiences of mankind. (See Compassion Or Compulsion?)

Why is this important? Because it helps us understand that we are not fighting altruists or idealists, for the most part; but something very different.

William Flax

201 posted on 08/14/2013 11:22:03 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Ohioan
You have put the Jacobin/Marxist/Bolshevik/Nazi day dream in the most favorable light, even though you obviously recognize that it is a false premise for political or social direction.

Yes, the whole point of the "egalitarianism" movement is to expend ever-increasing amounts of money on it, and amass ever-increasing amounts of power in order to promote egalitarianism. The real objective, as you note, is actually to be able to skim money and wield power.

Your mention of the Jacobins got me thinking. From the Wiki entry:

The Jacobins assumed more and more power during the spring of 1793, with the support of the Parisian mob, which overawed the Convention, culminating in a coup at the end of May. They were to hold power until the summer of 1794, and they repeatedly purged the Convention of those they held disloyal to the Republic, ending with a widespread program of execution, the Reign of Terror in their last months. Robespierre, generally the spokesman for the successful faction, had great esteem for his reputation as "the sea-green incorruptible", and set up the slogan of the Republic of Virtue, until the Jacobins' last purge, 9 Thermidor, 27 July 1794. Although some eye-witnesses said Robespierre was shot by a soldier, some historians state he attempted suicide; in any event, his lower jaw was shattered. He was executed the next day on Thermidor 10, 28 July 1794.[7]

The Jacobin club, its leadership having been decimated with Robespierre's execution, was disbanded 12 November 1794. The Jacobins' overwhelming power rested on a very slender material basis. Some[who?] compared the club's autocracy to that of the Inquisition, with its system of espionage and denunciations which no one was too illustrious or too humble to escape. The power of the Jacobins was frequently felt through their influence with the Parisian underclass—the sans-culottes – who the Jacobins could reliably count on to support them, and to mass ominously in the streets and at the National Convention when a display of force was considered desirable. Yet it was reckoned by competent observers[who?] that, at the height of the Terror, the Jacobins themselves could not command a force of more than 3000 men in Paris. A primary reason for their influence, or strength, was that, in the midst of the general disorganization in revolutionary Paris and in the provinces, they alone were organised. The police agent Dutard, in a report to the minister Garat (30 April 1793), describing an episode in the Palais Egalité (Royal), adds: "Why did a dozen Jacobins strike terror into two or three hundred aristocrats? It is that the former have a rallying-point and that the latter have none".[citation needed]

I'm thinking that the end-game of Obama's Chicago Mob is to create a crisis at some point in the future, which could be used to trigger a "French Revolution"-type event.

For such to occur, they would have to eradicate any nuclei of organization (like the Tea Party groups, FR, etc) which could serve as oppositional rallying points, and to disarm the middle-class so as to render them helpless against underclass mobs.

203 posted on 08/14/2013 1:19:55 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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