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These POS "scientists" and journo apparatchiks are paid to put out and parrot this propaganda on a daily basis. In each, the lies and half truths seem so overwhelming, and not even being consistent with each other, who has the energy to fisk each and every sentence?

But I still try to do it in one on one conversation.

Does anyone have the patience to partially fisk this crap here?

How about if each reader takes a paragraph, or even just a phrase, so that the thread becomes one big fisking?

I'll start with this one.


1 posted on 08/08/2013 7:43:49 AM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla
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If it falls into the sea, then there goes 52 EV for democrats.


2 posted on 08/08/2013 7:46:18 AM PDT by Perdogg (Cruz-Paul 2016)
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In the Pacific Northwest, the Indians used periodically set their own forest fires whenever the undergrowth got too thick.


3 posted on 08/08/2013 7:46:37 AM PDT by Eva (B Obama is to Trayvon Martin as Al Sharpton is to Tawana Brawley)
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“A new peer-reviewed paper published in Energy & Environment analyzes 24 years of data from the European Meteosat weather satellite and finds global temperatures decreased over the period 1982-2006”

http://www.climatedepot.com/2013/08/02/new-satellite-dataset-finds-global-temperatures-decreased-from-1982-2006/


4 posted on 08/08/2013 7:48:52 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (When America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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“Climate change is “an immediate and growing threat” affecting the state’s water supplies, farm industry, forests, wildlife and public health, the report says”.

I’d say GOVERNMENT is the immediate and growing threat be it local, state, or federal!!!!!


5 posted on 08/08/2013 7:51:12 AM PDT by wita
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This will cover the years not included in the dataset I linked to upthread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3051872/posts?page=9#9

I wish I knew how to post the chart itself, but my link brings you directly to it.


8 posted on 08/08/2013 7:57:55 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (When America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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Ohmigosh - we have been talking about how COLD summer is this year in Los Angeles. It’s mid-August, it’s been 79 and 81, quite lovely - fog until early afternoon, cool nights. The EPA is desperatte.


9 posted on 08/08/2013 8:00:20 AM PDT by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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Of course terrorist have nothing to do with fires. Fault lines and tectonics have nothing to do with earth quakes and water only rises on one side of the oceans. Volcanoes don’t put out any appreciable CO2.


11 posted on 08/08/2013 8:05:53 AM PDT by DeWalt
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Global warming already having dramatic impacts in California

Gee that's odd, since there hasn't been any for a decade, and in fact we're now experiencing global cooling.

14 posted on 08/08/2013 8:08:43 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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One of the main reasons fires are worse, if they really are, is because the forest service has been reduced in man power, on large fires units from other states have to be called in.

As for hotter summers that is so much BS. CA has had at least the last two summers, including this one, at lower temps than normal. Right now, in August our hottest month, Northern CA is seeing temps in the upper 80s(predicted to be 85 today)I have never seen temps this low in August, I am 71 and have lived here most of my life, normally we get a two or three week period of above 100. July was also cooler than normal for most of the month.

So much for "global warming".

15 posted on 08/08/2013 8:09:33 AM PDT by calex59
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Did the sea level change at the GGB or perhaps one or two major quakes over the last century moved the LAND?

Acres burned increased - what changes took place in fire-fighting approach (e.g. let it burn vs aggressive tactics), what logging changes and forest management changes that resulted in more fuel per acre occurred?

There are plenty of factors to be analyzed for each claim of doom.


20 posted on 08/08/2013 8:19:15 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("When there is no penalty for failure, failures proliferate." George F. Will)
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I love science, but I’d rather be a witch-doctor than a climatologist.


21 posted on 08/08/2013 8:19:28 AM PDT by onedoug
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Since 1950, the report found, the three worst forest fire years in California

Obviously, OBVIOUSLY, that says more about the land management practices since 1950 than some the climate,.

23 posted on 08/08/2013 8:21:18 AM PDT by DManA
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Even the UN IPCC says you are all lying... no warming in 15 years and Arctic Ice larger this year than in the past 100 years and the globe is cooling... even saw a show on Discovery where some Glaciers are growing. STFU liars.


24 posted on 08/08/2013 8:22:50 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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No. 631
Wednesday, September 10, 2008
by Lani Cohan and H. Sterling Burnett

Federal mismanagement of U.S. forests has increased the number, size and cost of wildfires over the past decade. Historically, the national forests have been logged to provide lumber for commercial activities, to promote forest recreation, species protection and management, and to prevent wildfires.

In recent decades this has changed. Pressure and lawsuits from environmental lobbyists have prevented or delayed both commercial and salvage logging, turning many of our national forests into tinderboxes.

http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba631/


26 posted on 08/08/2013 8:24:00 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Where's my pressure cooker backpack wmd ricin laced al qaeda terrorist BASSELOPE?)
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Those Model Ts must've had V10 engines....


29 posted on 08/08/2013 8:26:05 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Where's my pressure cooker backpack wmd ricin laced al qaeda terrorist BASSELOPE?)
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So sad. If California would only levy a tax on carbon, it would stop Global Warming in its tracks.


31 posted on 08/08/2013 8:30:37 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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"public lands overwhelmed with exotic species and uncleared brush"

They don't clear the brush or the trees. Bark Beetles have been a big problem too. Also a large number of the fires were started by arsonists.

We never hear anything about the damage caused by radical enviromental policies.

These so called scientists are a disgrace.

33 posted on 08/08/2013 8:31:06 AM PDT by Pajamajan (Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
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California's problems could be because God is punishing them for being flaming libs. Why not? That's at least as credible a reason as "global warming".

Interesting that "global warming" has resulted in a cooler than normal summer here.

34 posted on 08/08/2013 8:41:01 AM PDT by MEGoody (You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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Global warming already having dramatic impacts in California, new report says

Limited to Fantasyland.

35 posted on 08/08/2013 8:43:03 AM PDT by Amagi (Buying "Green" means purchasing inferior quality at increased cost.)
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Turned on the Weather Channel for a few minutes this morning to watch my "Local on the 8's." During their "Tropical Update" they spewed the usual bile about rising ocean levels ("as much as six feet in a hundred years") and more extreme storms and hurricanes. My shouting at the TV upset the dog who thought he'd done something wrong.

BTW, a good article (Sea Level Rise Surprise (S. Fred Singer)) was posted on here a couple of days ago and a graphic from it is posted below:

(18 cm = 7.1 in., 140 cm = 4.6 ft., 600 cm = 19.7 ft., conversion: 1 in = 2.54 cm)

38 posted on 08/08/2013 8:52:43 AM PDT by CedarDave (Trayvon Martin history: The MS media is in love with burglars and thugs in training.)
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