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Three dead when bullets fly at Pa. municipal meeting
CBS(AP) ^ | August 5, 2013

Posted on 08/05/2013 10:11:56 PM PDT by South40

SAYLORSBURG, PA. A gunman blasted shots through the wall of a municipal building during a meeting on Monday and then barged into the room and continued firing, killing three people, before he was tackled by a local official and shot with his own gun, a witness said.

The shooting, which also injured three people, happened shortly before 7:30 p.m. during Ross Township's regular monthly meeting, Monroe County emergency management director Guy Miller said. The gunman, who appeared to be "shooting randomly," was captured and was in state police custody at a local hospital, which was placed on lockdown, he said.

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1 posted on 08/05/2013 10:11:56 PM PDT by South40
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To: South40
The shooter, who had an ongoing dispute with the town, was tackled by a local official and shot with his own gun after he went on the rampage around 7:30 pm in Monroe County, Penn.

The gunman, who appeared to be shooting randomly, was being treated at a hospital last night and was in police custody.

The Pocono Record reported that authorities later descended on the property of Rockne Newell, a local hoarder who has been cited for numerous violations.

After battling with the township for almost 20 years, Newell was ordered to vacate his property last August, the paper said.

Among the complaints were the massive amounts of junk that Newell kept on his property, including buckets of human waste.

- NY Post
2 posted on 08/05/2013 10:29:12 PM PDT by conservative98
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To: conservative98
Looks like a hippie.



http://www.poconorecord.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20130806/NEWS/308060316

He got a building permit from the township to have a storage structure on the property, but then built a dwelling without first getting a zoning permit or certificate of occupancy from the township.

Over the years, authorities have responded to Newell's property as a result of neighbor complaints and on one occasion in 2009 found human fecal matter in buckets there, according to previous reports in the Pocono Record. The township determined he was improperly disposing of sewage with no septic system or permit for one.

In a previous article, Newell said he couldn't afford septic hookup fees.

"If I lose this property, I have nowhere else to go," Newell told the Pocono Record in June. "What they're doing to me, what they've been doing to me for so long, it's wrong."
3 posted on 08/05/2013 10:37:32 PM PDT by conservative98
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To: conservative98

Hoarder? sounds like he’s a paranoid schizophrenic.


4 posted on 08/05/2013 10:39:37 PM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: South40
He's a liberal.

On his Facebook page, Newell said he voted for President Barack Obama but was upset with his administration, citing the President’s failure to close down Guantanamo Bay and the continuing federal crack down on medical marijuana. He also posted an image on his page in support of the Second Amendment, along with a lengthy note opposing gun control. On his Twitter page, he tweeted in support of a petition to “eliminate armed guards for the President, Vice-President, and their families, and establish Gun Free Zones around them.”

In a comment at Mother Jones last year, Newell wrote: “if you bring an AR15 to a public meeting & parade around with it you should go to jail I believe in the second amendment, but there is a difference between the second amendment & terrorizing people!”

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/08/05/two-dead-four-injured-as-gunman-opens-fire-on-town-hall-meeting-in-pennsylvania/
5 posted on 08/05/2013 10:42:32 PM PDT by conservative98
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To: conservative98
Looks like a hippie

You wouldn't have liked the looks of the Founders...

6 posted on 08/05/2013 10:43:30 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: conservative98
He also posted an image on his page in support of the Second Amendment, along with a lengthy note opposing gun control.

Clearly a radical.

7 posted on 08/05/2013 10:46:14 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: South40

Another mental case that belongs in an institution, but the left closed down mental institutions in the 70s.


8 posted on 08/05/2013 10:47:20 PM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: LongWayHome

And you base your comments on what the MSN stated?


9 posted on 08/05/2013 10:51:12 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: LongWayHome

CBS...Never lies.


10 posted on 08/05/2013 10:51:42 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
You wouldn't have liked the looks of the Founders,

I don't see any hippie beards here...


11 posted on 08/05/2013 10:53:52 PM PDT by conservative98
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To: conservative98

You’re FOS.


12 posted on 08/05/2013 10:54:32 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: conservative98

Hey, ya run with CBS reports...

Go get um mr. conservative!


13 posted on 08/05/2013 10:55:47 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: conservative98

BTW, for the record, I don’t support people killing innocents...However, I no longer trust the MSN, at any level.


14 posted on 08/05/2013 10:58:48 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: All

Er...MSM


15 posted on 08/05/2013 10:59:41 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: conservative98
He voted for Barack Hussein Obama but was upset with "the President’s failure to close down Guantanamo Bay and the continuing federal crack down on medical marijuana."

Not the TEA Party type. Just another disgruntled DemocRAT. I'll bet his ObamaPhone was out of minutes too.

16 posted on 08/05/2013 10:59:59 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Senator Foghorn says, You should never resist being raped, robbed, beat down or murdered.)
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To: conservative98
Newell kept on his property, including buckets of human waste

He should have just brought the buckets.

17 posted on 08/05/2013 11:00:19 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: FlingWingFlyer

He also posted an image on his page in support of the Second Amendment, along with a lengthy note opposing gun control.


18 posted on 08/05/2013 11:01:00 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Cementjungle

Be advised, the MSM and in this case CBS/AP will tell ya what they want.


19 posted on 08/05/2013 11:02:26 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: conservative98
Saylorsburg is a peculiar location. I don't want to make light of this atrocity, but there have been other incidents in this area over recent years. I recall some kind of animal farm controversy, and isn't there some kind of cult compound up around there?

I've driven by it many times on Rt. 33 which goes through Wind Gap, there in the foreground. There are a series of gaps in this long ridge including Lehigh Gap and the Delaware Gap, which accommodate rivers. Wind Gap, which lies between them, represents an ancient river which lost its hold on the ground and was elevated out of existence. It is a sort of gateway to the Poconos, and seems to be skewed slightly from the conventional by virtue of its geography.


20 posted on 08/05/2013 11:04:26 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: LadyDoc

Cops and prosecution folks may like using the term hoarder because you avoid all that mental-health mumbo-jumbo. But yeah, he’s absolutely a paranoid schizophrenic.

After you sit down...analyze the characteristics of the problem....you come to a belief that probably ten percent of society is either mildly schizophrenic or deeply schizophrenic.

But the problem in this case is that you could have identified the guy five years ago with this condition, and done nothing about it because of the general legal structure that we operate under. He has to wound or kill someone....before the legal system will do anything about the idiot.


21 posted on 08/05/2013 11:04:34 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: dragnet2

This is not CBS. He voted for Obama. This is another liberal gone wild incident. If you know of more, please enlighten me with some URLS.


22 posted on 08/05/2013 11:04:39 PM PDT by conservative98
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To: Cementjungle

It’s ironic patriots and conservatives constantly rail against MSN and govenrment yet seem to believe anything reported by these corrupt controlling entities.


23 posted on 08/05/2013 11:06:20 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: conservative98

Where ya getting your source slick?

Post it.


24 posted on 08/05/2013 11:07:41 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
He voted for Barack Hussein Obama but was upset with "the President’s failure to close down Guantanamo Bay and the continuing federal crack down on medical marijuana."

Not the TEA Party type. Just another disgruntled DemocRAT. I'll bet his ObamaPhone was out of minutes too.
Exactly. It seems like most of these shootings are by registered Democrats. That's all I'm pointing out.
25 posted on 08/05/2013 11:09:09 PM PDT by conservative98
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To: conservative98

Where ya getting your source slick?


26 posted on 08/05/2013 11:09:31 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Got no use for some assh^le firing random gunshots & killing innocent people. He a friend of yours ?


27 posted on 08/05/2013 11:13:39 PM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: LongWayHome

Where ya getting your sources regarding what occurred and the suspects background?

Are you afraid to say?


28 posted on 08/05/2013 11:15:04 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Yup...the press is setting some guy up in PA tonight. They all got together to do it/s


29 posted on 08/05/2013 11:17:03 PM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: LongWayHome

You gunna die on the hill MSM tells ya to? Ya gunna vote on what the MSM tells ya to?


30 posted on 08/05/2013 11:18:10 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: LongWayHome

Well are ya?


31 posted on 08/05/2013 11:18:43 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
Is this guy a friend of yours? I already posted the link. He is a liberal, looks like a god damn hippie, is into marijuana, voted for Obama and is pissed because Gitmo wasn't closed!

Learn to read before you attack.
32 posted on 08/05/2013 11:19:05 PM PDT by conservative98
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To: dragnet2

Want to bet this turns out just to be some nut with a gun ?


33 posted on 08/05/2013 11:19:45 PM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: LongWayHome

Ya believe everything the MSM tells ya mr. home?

Well?


34 posted on 08/05/2013 11:19:55 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: LongWayHome

Why are you evading the questions?


35 posted on 08/05/2013 11:20:40 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: conservative98

This guy’s sounds wacked tonight, lol.


36 posted on 08/05/2013 11:21:10 PM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: conservative98

This is not about me.

Do you believe everything the MSM tells ya?


37 posted on 08/05/2013 11:21:22 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: LongWayHome
Want to bet this turns out just to be some nut with a gun

Wait a minute Mr. Home....First ya try and convince all this is a leftist lunatic and now you suggest we wait to find out if "It's just a nut with a gun".

Which is it mr. longwayhome?

Is it the MSM version or your own version?

38 posted on 08/05/2013 11:32:36 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Take your bullsh*t elsewhere....go beat your wife or dog, or whatever you’re into. I’m not playing.


39 posted on 08/05/2013 11:35:51 PM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: LongWayHome

You evaded the questions real good....see the tag line below slick.


40 posted on 08/05/2013 11:37:41 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: conservative98

Oh. A Democrat.


41 posted on 08/05/2013 11:43:44 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama: the bearded lady of Muslim Brotherhood))
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To: South40

other threads show his blog and that he was a liberal and voted for obama.


42 posted on 08/06/2013 1:07:56 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: LongWayHome

Want to bet this turns out just to be some nut with a gun ?
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Yep, just another typical Obama-ite with a gun. Can’t trust those ‘rats with your life!


43 posted on 08/06/2013 2:39:04 AM PDT by House Atreides ( D)
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To: conservative98

He’s a liberal.

A very very unhaPPy and armed liberal.

18 year dispute? 18 years?

and now come the funerals.


44 posted on 08/06/2013 10:30:42 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi --)
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To: NormsRevenge
I am hard pressed to remember any traditional conservative who has ever done a mass shooting. Muslims, leftists, anarchists, white supremacists, and generalized cranks are invariably the culprits.
45 posted on 08/06/2013 10:56:07 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: pepsionice

yeah. It’s almost impossible to find a hospital for long term treatment or to force someone to get treatment, and even then they are left as an outpatient, where they can legally decline medicine, never mind that they are delusional as hell.

And a lot of them are not violent but end up on the streets.


46 posted on 08/06/2013 10:32:59 PM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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