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To: KC Burke

You are correct. Any bill from the House will be gutted and inserted with a Senate Trojan. Then it comes back to the House for a vote. But all the democrats and 18 moderate republicans are all that is needed to pass it.

The only thing protecting the country from this immigration travesty is the Hastert Rule which says no bill will be taken for a vote in the House as long as there is not a clear majority of republicans supporting it.

Boehner at one point was willing to abandon the Hastert Rule but he was put on notice by Bachmann and other conservatives that if he abandoned the Hastert Rule that his Speakership would be in jeopardy.

So far Boehner is sticking by the Hastert Rule publicly but is working behind the scenes to get some sort of bill up for a vote. Cantor’s information is part of that work and so is Paul Ryan’s.


12 posted on 08/04/2013 11:33:04 AM PDT by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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To: Hostage
Boehner at one point was willing to abandon the Hastert Rule but he was put on notice by Bachmann and other conservatives that if he abandoned the Hastert Rule that his Speakership would be in jeopardy.

Why wait? Why react? Boehner has made his intentions clear. Don't wait. Initiate action rather than react: remove him from the Speakership.

13 posted on 08/04/2013 11:36:46 AM PDT by Ray76 (Common sense immigration reform: Enforce Existing Law)
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To: Hostage; sickoflibs; ogen hal; Perdogg; GOPJ; stephenjohnbanker; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; ...
Any bill from the House will be gutted and inserted with a Senate Trojan. Then it comes back to the House for a vote. But all the democrats and 18 moderate republicans are all that is needed to pass it.

I don't know for sure that a House bill would NOT contain some kind of path-to-citizenship even before it got to conference, but when the conference bill came back it would have a path-to-citizenship, but either possibility is a tremendous worry. Let's assume you are right.

Cantor promised that even if such a bill came back from conference, it would still have to have a majority of the GOP House members support to be allowed a vote in the House. July 10: Appearing on Hannity last night, House Majority Leader Eric Cantor promised to enforce the so-called “Hastert rule” on immigration reform, refusing to allow any proposal from a joint House-Senate conference committee to reach the House floor without the support of a majority of Republicans.

On the other hand lamebrain traitor Paul Ryan said he wanted all components of immigration reform to be brought up for a floor vote, regardless of whether they ultimately received majority Republican support or not. “We don’t know if we have a majority until we vote on it,” Ryan explained. He also said he’d been in close consultation with Speaker Boehner about how to proceed with the bill.

If Cantor was telling the truth, maybe he feels confident he can do enough bribing (with the help of amnesty lobbyists) and arm twisting before they check whether >50% would support a conference bill.

18 posted on 08/04/2013 7:56:44 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: Hostage; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Liz; Perdogg; GOPJ; stephenjohnbanker; Gilbo_3; NFHale; ...
RE :”You are correct. Any bill from the House will be gutted and inserted with a Senate Trojan. Then it comes back to the House for a vote. But all the democrats and 18 moderate republicans are all that is needed to pass it.”

I am for that House proposed bill (idea) that gives states the power to enforce immigration law independently of the Federal government, if one comes up for a vote.

Blocking a bill like that would be siding with illegals, Obama and LaRaza and all the Dems that vote against it.

19 posted on 08/04/2013 8:05:54 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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