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To: kabar
In my post #49 I provided a link to an article I wrote recently on the immigration issue. Whether you are aware of it or not, we have experienced over the past 40 years one of the greatest mass migrations in human history. We now have 40 million foreign-born in this country (a conservative figure). In 1970 one out of 21 was foreign born; today it is one in 8, the highest it has been in 90 years!

I am very aware of this fact. Yet you disputed my comment that our immigration system is broken and has been for at least 3 generations.

And do we really need 1.2 million legal immigrants every year when 20 million Americans are unemployed or underemployed? Immigrants use welfare programs to a much greater degree than the native born. They are helping to destroy our social safety net.

America needs to wake up to the facts about immigration. We prefer to romanticize it rather than analyzing its impact on our country. Legal immigration is more of a problem than illegal immigration. Demography is destiny.

No argument with your final statement. Your penultimate sentence is shocking. Perhaps you could consider that the one million legal immigrants invited to become citizens every year are replacements for the one million abortions of potential native-born citizens.

Why do you dismiss the illegal immigration as being less of a problem? Having had a career in the state dept, which has the task of authorizing visas to foreigners, I would have thought that people sneaking in with minimal negative consequences, would have really irritated you. Do you leave your own doors unlocked?

146 posted on 08/05/2013 7:00:44 AM PDT by maica (Welcome to post-rational America.)
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To: maica
I am very aware of this fact. Yet you disputed my comment that our immigration system is broken and has been for at least 3 generations.

I asked you for specifics on what was "broken." The pro-amnesty, open-borders types say this all the time. It has become code for comprehensive immigration reform. Yes, we need some reform, but the system is not broken. It is just not being enforced.

No argument with your final statement. Your penultimate sentence is shocking. Perhaps you could consider that the one million legal immigrants invited to become citizens every year are replacements for the one million abortions of potential native-born citizens.

Nonsense. We are not having a population problem nor do we need a mass infusion of low skilled, uneducated immigrants. We have an abundant supply of our own. FYI: Our fertility rate is 2.06 children born/woman (2013 est.), which is just at about replacement level.

Yes abortion does affect our population growth. For example, there would be twice as many blacks as there are today. The black community is the biggest user of abortion services.

Why do you dismiss the illegal immigration as being less of a problem? Having had a career in the state dept, which has the task of authorizing visas to foreigners, I would have thought that people sneaking in with minimal negative consequences, would have really irritated you. Do you leave your own doors unlocked?

Illegal immigration is a problem more easily solved than legal immigration. At least twice as many legal immigrants enter this country annually as illegal aliens. They are mostly the same kinds of people. Legal immigrants can vote, receive welfare services, vote, etc. Their impact is far greater on our society.

Legal immigration has become the third rail of American politics. You can't discuss it without being described as a nativist and racist. Like the proverbial frog being boiled slowly alive on the stove, legal immigration is insidiously destroying this country. Immigration to America is a privilege, not a right, and our immigration policies should serve the best interests of this country.

If you want a chilling picture of how unemployment is affecting young Americans, read this: Jobless Rate for Poor Black Teen Dropouts? Try 95 Percent

"If you're a high school dropout you're talking about 30 percent working. Among high school grads who graduated from high school in the last three years -- we do a separate survey of them the fall after graduation -- 45 percent of them held a job, the lowest in the last 50 years we've been collecting this data. And to make it worse, of that 45 percent, only half of them were able to get a full-time job. Only one in five young high school grads, not in college, [is] working full-time.

And we are now talking about bringing in 33 million more legal immigrants over the next ten years--most of them with a high school degree or less. This is pure insanity on so many levels.

147 posted on 08/05/2013 7:35:50 AM PDT by kabar
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