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To: American in Israel; sauropod; Grampa Dave
I'm really tired of seeing FReepers blame the Saudis for green racketeering when, by far, the bulk of funding and infrastructure for the greeies comes from the tax-exempt "charitable" foundations of American heirs to vast industrial fortunes. The Saudis aren't even second place when it comes to green racketeering money. The taxpayer ponies up for the lawsuits every time the complicit agencies the greenie lawyers sue "loses" the case!

Just stop it. It isn't true. Yes the Saudis are evil. Yes they fund mosques and madrassas worldwide and it is very destructive. But energy racketeering by "environmental" groups for fun and profit is an American forte to which the Saudis are themselves green. Heck sauropod, it was you who found for me the material on the Convention on Nature Protection. That was 1941. Do you really think the Saudis were into that stuff back then? No way.

Remember: it isn't the oil companies themselves that are playing this game (although they certainly did when it came to MTBE in gasoline although the NRDC was the lead player (same thing)), it is their major stockholders who fund the greens, often laundering the money through other foundations. And yes, when you buy that stock you are a beneficiary.

84 posted on 07/29/2013 9:55:05 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Islam offers choices: convert, submit, or die.)
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To: Carry_Okie

Honestly I see the Muslims as willing pawns to the players. They can turn off the problem anytime they want by nuking Mecca. What better of a proxy army than a bunch of 7th century savages that cannot even make airplanes?

That is why I said the Rockefellers are in bed with the Saudis.


87 posted on 07/29/2013 11:06:29 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Carry_Okie

I am fully aware of the Nature Conservancy shell game, to which you alluded earlier. I was merely pointing out that the Saudis appear to have a self interest here and a hand in dirty dealing. The gentleman who pointed out that self-interest was correct in doing so.

I’m not standing behind the 90% figure either. But you cannot discount the Saudis’ self interest.

I’m not discounting the racket the Eco-fascists have behind bringing lawsuits and then settling with the EPA (or whomever) behind closed doors in a meeting to which you or I would not be invited. I am well aware of what the Ford Foundation, the Tides Foundation, etc. etc. are doing.

Demonizing the Saudis is not the answer. I’ve come to the sad conclusion that we would need to demonize more than half our own population. To my eyes, America appears bent on national suicide.

Cheers.


98 posted on 07/29/2013 1:10:26 PM PDT by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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