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To: silverleaf

it’s hard to square the Egyptian military’s practice of virginity checks and its role in the Port Said soccer massacre with a decent respect for civilians.


64 posted on 07/27/2013 9:26:42 PM PDT by kenavi (Debunk THIS!)
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To: kenavi

these are recent occurrences (since the “revolution” actually)

the soccer melee was a combo of fan violence, bad management and poor decisions by Egyptian police, the military was actually brought in to restore order and rescue people. Some people screwed up and some people died. This was not an intentional massacre

the women who underwent “virginity checks” had them peformed because the police claimed they were apprehended in compromising conditions (allegedly camping in tents with men, and with weapons) and the police claim to want to forestall claims of rape by these women ...

Maybe not our cup of tea (not that we haven’t had our share of women being molested by police based on the thinnest allegations of crime) but this is not America, it is a Middle Eastern muslim-influenced culture and society. If you think a MB police and miltary will do a better job then my wish is that you get to live under that

Compared to others, the Egyptian military officers were (probably still are) representative of the Egyptian middle and upper middle class, educated many of them in Europe and US, and probably the best source of future leaders capable of steering the country to secularism, civil order and a real representative government. Other than Jordan (and Israel of course), there are no others I can think of that are comparable in respecting civilian rights, in a western-oriented cultural sense. That is why the obamite islamists hate and distrust them

You would have to travel there and meet the people to experience it for yourself


79 posted on 07/28/2013 2:26:32 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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