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To: Hostage
Sorry to have to tell you but you are grossly misinformed.

Howso? The quoted portion I gave was from your provided link.

First, the Flat Tax is an Income Tax and requires the 16th Amendment to be constitutional.

There are more holes regarding the 14th amendment than the 16th's ratification IIUC.

Second, THE FLAT TAX NEVER STAYS FLAT. Don’t think for a second that our United States has never had a a Flat Tax. There have been several, starting from 1861.

See my post 15: that amendment would guarantee it.

Thirdly, the FairTax is not designed to be a progressive tax. Why is it then described as progressive?

By the very link you gave it says that it is progressive. So, I have no answer for you.

28 posted on 07/26/2013 9:59:39 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

OneWingedShark,

The fact that you have found freerepublic.com and have chosen to participate is evidence that you are a cut above the low-information voter, but you are not much more that a small cut above. I don’t mean that in a harmful way, we all have to start somewhere. But there are some very serious people on this website with a lot of experience and insight into politics and political philosophy and you, I and many
others here would do well to observe and learn from them.

You seem to be hung up on the word ‘progressive’. Do you know that this word has a different meaning when applied to tax code as it does when applied to a political group?

Let me make it simple for you. Do you know the FairTax can leave ANY American individual untaxed no matter how rich or wealthy? I will repeat:

ANY AMERICAN INDIVIDUAL CAN PAY ZERO NET FEDERAL TAX UNDER THE FAIRTAX.

Don’t believe it? Take Warren Buffet for example. He’s worth say about $50 Billion at least in what is known publicly.

Warren can move into a studio apartment, buy food and bathroom goods at the local Coop, take the bus or ride a bicycle, and pay his utilities all for the grand total of about $1100 per month. Yes, Warren can do that. And in so doing Warren will be left tax-free even if he earns and pays himself a billion dollars from his businesses.

You see EVERYONE can choose to be tax-free under the FairTax because the FairTax is based on RETAIL SPENDING. We have the choice under the FairTax as to how much we want to pay in federal taxes.

Now normally, people will spend enough to be satisfied to know that they, their families, their friends and community are having a good and abundant life. That’s human nature. So most people are going to be paying the NRST above the level of spending for the essentials of living (the poverty line).

And because the Rebate is fixed and the same for every American individual, people can choose by their spending choices whether to be untaxed or maximally taxed or somewhere in between.

THE FAIRTAX IS NOT AND CAN NEVER BE A PROGRESSIVE TOOL TO BE USED BY ‘PROGRESSIVE’ POLITICAL GROUPS.

THE FAIRTAX IS ‘PROGRESSIVE’ IN ITS NATURE BUT NEVER POLITICALLY BECAUSE PEOPLE CHOOSE TO SPEND WHAT THEY DESIRE AND HAVE CAPACITY TO SPEND.


33 posted on 07/26/2013 11:45:48 AM PDT by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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To: OneWingedShark

It’s only “progressive” if you spend more and thus pay more tax. Higher incomes tend to spend more than lower so it looks “progressive” but not technically since the rate doesn’t change.

By that definition a Flat Tax is also “progressive” since the more you make the more you pay.

Progressive defined is higher rates as you make higher incomes. Neither the Flat or Fair Tax do that.


53 posted on 07/26/2013 3:17:47 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Note to the NSA: I approved this dissention. What are you going to do about it Punks?)
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