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To: Responsibility2nd
He has a point ...

The entire sport was corrupt at the time, and I'm not convinced it has cleaned itself up yet.

4 posted on 07/25/2013 10:23:00 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Lance is such a self centered person, he started here in Plano Texas and dumped the Richardson Bike Shop owner and others who helped him start his career the first chance he had.


5 posted on 07/25/2013 10:35:41 AM PDT by pwatson
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Post office can’t possibly prove damages, so the case should be dismissed.


6 posted on 07/25/2013 10:36:39 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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He does NOT have a point. He’s a thief, a cheat, a liar, and the Grand Architect of Deception that cost honest people connected with the sport their reputations (calling his Irish masseuse a prostitute and a drunk, trying to wreck the business opportunities for the Andreus and Greg Lemond, who told the truth), a chance at the championship and sponsorships. He is a gold-plated thief of opportunities, a bully and a mountebank. Contrast to Chris Froome, Cadel Evans, Brad Wiggins and numerous others who did not use drugs to steal from others - I want our money back to the Postal Service from the gold-plated phony named Lance Armstrong.


8 posted on 07/25/2013 10:39:04 AM PDT by laconic
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The P.O. got exactly what they paid for, publicity and exposure. They couldn’t have gotten more bang for the buck at any advertising agency in the world. Whether he was juicing or not is beside the point at this time.

Now, the biggest question is did the P.O. really need to spend the money for advertising? Taxpayers money???


10 posted on 07/25/2013 10:40:46 AM PDT by biff (WAS)
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I think that if Lance had won one or two TdF titles no one would have noticed he was cheating. When it was seven, and with the sociopathic behavior he exhibited in winning them, he made himself a target.

I think the fact that no one has been a repeat winner since then (i.e. without getting busted like Contador did after his second win) is not just a coincidence. One-and-done champions won’t face the same scrutiny.

If you have a sport where the difference between brutal effort for almost no money and brutal effort for millions of dollars is the contents of a syringe, people will take the contents of the syringe.

The incentives are misaligned. When one person gets all the money and all the glory, the push to be that one person is intense.


18 posted on 07/25/2013 11:08:10 AM PDT by babble-on
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