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German Subs: Sunken WWI U-Boats a Bonanza for Historians
Spiegel Online International ^ | 7/19/2013 | Frank Thadeusz

Posted on 07/21/2013 10:51:24 AM PDT by NCDragon

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To: ken5050
What was most amazing for me was the galley..that 2-3 cooks could produce meals 24/7 for a crew of 70-80 for 8 weeks ( duration of the average war patrol) in a space that about the size of my closet.

And now picture Gordon Ramsey on a submarine... (Or better not)

21 posted on 07/21/2013 12:14:23 PM PDT by Moltke (Sapere aude!)
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To: ken5050
As an aside, for those who might be interested, by far the best novel of U boat warfare in WW II is Nicholas' Monserrat's "The Cruel Sea."

I would suggest another also. The Killing Time,by Edwyn A Grey, published by Scribner (1972). Grey notes that at least 7 of the boats "sprung a leak" and foundered on the way to England and one decided to be interned in Sweden while at least one went on to serve as a French vessel. He adds, 515 officers and 4894 men lost their lives druing the war from 178 boats destroyed by the enemy or by accident. A further 14 were were scuttled in the Adriatic or in Flanders and a total 122 surrendered in Harwich, England.

22 posted on 07/21/2013 12:32:04 PM PDT by TexasRedeye (Eschew Obfuscation)
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To: NCDragon; zot; Interesting Times

agreed, treat as war graves, not a source for vintage bottles of german bier and sauerkraut.


23 posted on 07/21/2013 1:23:59 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: ken5050; El Gato

If either of you get to Chicago, take a tour of the WW2 German type VII submarine U-505. it is well worth the visit

Plus there is a true Battle of Britain Spitfire and a German Stuka hanging from the ceiling in the main entry area.


24 posted on 07/21/2013 1:27:49 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: American in Israel

Perfect description .... Agree


25 posted on 07/21/2013 1:29:07 PM PDT by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: ken5050
As an aside, for those who might be interested, by far the best novel of U boat warfare in WW II is Nicholas' Monserrat's "The Cruel Sea."

The part that gave me a Holy Crap moment was when they were trying to put some salve on a badly burned seaman's body and the flesh was coming off in bits of charred flesh with each swipe. The salve was for mild sunburn and cautioned on applying to much lest the skin get damaged.

A good one from the othe side is "Iron Coffins".

It seemed to me that parts of "Das Boot" were taken from this book.

26 posted on 07/21/2013 1:59:52 PM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: GreyFriar

Thanks for the ping. I’m not sure these subs are a Bonanza for historians.


27 posted on 07/21/2013 2:33:48 PM PDT by zot
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To: NCDragon

Good book on finding a sunken U boat is called Shadow Divers. Good read.


28 posted on 07/21/2013 2:56:50 PM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: Oatka
A good one from the othe side is "Iron Coffins".

Das Boot, book and movie.

Regards,
GtG

PS My brother is/was a "sewer pipe sailor" (our Navy).

29 posted on 07/21/2013 3:00:03 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: GreyFriar

I’ve seen it....have you ever seen the film about how they got it there?


30 posted on 07/21/2013 3:21:48 PM PDT by ken5050 (Due to all the WH scandals, MSNBC is changing its slogan from "Lean Forward" to "BOHICA")
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To: ken5050

Yes, but many years ago. The last time I went through the U-505 was in the mid-60s, when I still lived near Chicago.


31 posted on 07/21/2013 3:46:32 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: ken5050

I have been on the Bowfin,(24 hours) off the coast of Florida about 1965, left on a rubber raft for Army Intel training. Paddled ashore and watched the lights of south Fl going south, had to be rescued by the Coast Guard, big surprise to the coasties when they came upon us with lotsa machine guns and etc. The Chief in charge of the CG boat said “shut up” there is nothing there. Got to a pier and found out where the coasties hung out and bought lotsa drinks.


32 posted on 07/21/2013 7:11:52 PM PDT by CW3-MI-R
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To: The Great RJ
These are war graves and should just be left in peace.

That has not been proven yet. These subs were found all in close proximity to each other and were likely scuttled by the British. Or even the Germans. I'd wager there are no remains of a single body on any of the subs.

33 posted on 07/25/2013 6:24:59 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (So Obama "inherited" a mess? Firemen "inherit" messes too. Ever see one put gasoline on it?)
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