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12 states sue EPA over agency's alleged 'sue and settle' tactics
Fox News ^ | July 17, 2013/

Posted on 07/16/2013 11:09:06 PM PDT by george76

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To: SierraWasp
There is something wrong with your memory.

The first question and decision was whether or not to put an oxygenate in gasoline to make it burn better in the cylinder and reduce pollution. And the universal consensus was yes.

Then the next question was which oxygenate. The Midwest went with ethanol and CA and other states went with mtbe, which was produced in a refinery from waste products. A new product.

It was the O&G industry/refiners who were pushing mtbe.

There may have been, as you say, some leaky pipelines but the real problem was that CA did an inadequate job of inspecting buried gasoline tanks. Gasoline is not water soluble so a leaky tank is not a big problem. But when you put water soluble mtbe in the gasoline , it migrates fast and far

21 posted on 07/17/2013 1:26:05 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Carry_Okie
Very well, you get the historcal accuracy prize and thank you very much for it!!!

Actually I had two purposes in my reply. I fouled one up but still have the other right. "EarthJustice" is in fact the Sierra Flub's litigation organization. So, one out of two ain't a complete failure...

22 posted on 07/17/2013 3:58:12 PM PDT by SierraWasp (I pledge to the USSA & 2 the democrazy for witch it stands, a nation with liberalism & misery 4 all!)
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To: SierraWasp
"EarthJustice" is in fact the Sierra Flub's litigation organization.

Interestingly, they have offices across the street from the Stanford Law School. Yep, right on campus.

23 posted on 07/17/2013 4:10:57 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party, advancing indentured constituency for 150 years.)
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To: george76
This proves again that it is not Obama's policy to be a good-faith negotiator in anything. Obama doesn't care whether he ultimately wins or loses in the courts. He only cares that the process will bankrupt the people and businesses that he targets along the way.

That's why George Zimmerman needs to watch out for Federal hate crime charges. It doesn't matter to Obama and Holder whether they will ultimately win in court or not, or that their case is even winnable or Constitutional. They only care that Zimmerman is punished along the way.

-PJ

24 posted on 07/17/2013 4:15:04 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Ben Ficklin
"It was the O&G industry/refiners who were pushing mtbe."

Well of course it was! The stuff was cheaper and they had been paying big bucks to get rid of the toxic stuff and this idea saved them that expense, too!

There's nothing wrong with my memory! I was just trying to make a quick comment about the ghastly effect of the threat of litigation and the milking of the legal system by these NGO litigating parasites who threat and switch!!!

If I were to write a book in response to each thread you'd complain about that even more!!! (Next time don't be so fast and loose with the aspersions, thanks.) I've never poked you like that before so don't start with me. (at least not that I remember)(grin)

25 posted on 07/17/2013 4:28:29 PM PDT by SierraWasp (I pledge to the USSA & 2 the democrazy for witch it stands, a nation with liberalism & misery 4 all!)
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