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To: OneWingedShark
We are at war, and I am kind of busy fighting that war, protecting and defending the Constitution, our nation and its people.

I dont have the time to continually re-educate folks who already have made up their minds to the contrary that national defense is the PRIMARY reason for a Federal govt and that certain agencies play major roles in that mission.

The people I work with, regardless of political leanings, are all patriots.

However, our political leaders, and their appointees, are being elected by selfish, non-patriots. As long as that continues, and as long as there are no repercussions (jail time) for their illegal use of power, the situation wont change.

Eliminating the very national jewels that allow us, or at least give us a chance, to 1) stay ahead of our adversaries, 2) see into the thought processes of our enemies, 3) possibly anticipate and cut off either strategic moves to hurt our nation or even actual attacks on our people, will not make our nation safer when saner leaders have been restored to elected office.

19 posted on 07/17/2013 8:41:27 AM PDT by Magnum44 (I have had just about enough)
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To: Magnum44
However, our political leaders, and their appointees, are being elected by selfish, non-patriots. As long as that continues, and as long as there are no repercussions (jail time) for their illegal use of power, the situation wont change.

Eliminating the very national jewels that allow us, or at least give us a chance, to 1) stay ahead of our adversaries, 2) see into the thought processes of our enemies, 3) possibly anticipate and cut off either strategic moves to hurt our nation or even actual attacks on our people, will not make our nation safer when saner leaders have been restored to elected office.

Now you're just talking out of both sides of your mouth: either the 4th amendment (and 5th and 6th) actually legally and lawfully mean something and the NSA (and FISA court, and IRS, and ATF, senators, reps., justices, and judges, etc) should be severely punished or they do not and the abuses of our leaders are not violating the law precisely because the 4th, 5th, and 6th mean nothing.

IOW, to not throw the baby out with the bathwater is precisely to overthrow the Constitution in the name of expediency.

I took an oath to defend the Constitution, not the Congress, not the President, not the Supreme Court: the constitution. If those people are not for the Constitution, then I am against them; that is what it means to protect the Constitution from domestic enemies.

20 posted on 07/17/2013 8:53:04 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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