I think the feds going down this road will really lay open the problems in the black community.... I don’t think they really want to do that.
That’s when he thought Zimmerman will be convicted. Now that this isn’t the case, he will do a 180 and his original statement will go into the memory hole.
We got to be careful not to get caught up in the argument here....these guys are not talking civil suit, they are talking “hate crime...criminal”. Any first year law student should be able to kill any case like that brought by the justice brothers. Maybe they will appoint Nelson to the federal bench and try the case in her court room.
Beyond the instant matter, these “thought crimes” are insidious and should never have made it into the criminal code.
>> “We have to show that there was specific intent to do the crime with requisite state of mind,”
And not only that, Z has constitutional protection against being tried twice for the same crime. Oh sure, it’s *theoretically possible* for DOJ to argue that “hate murder” and “murder” are two different crimes, but as I can hear O’Mara say... “...Really? REALLY?...”
DOJ will expel some ominous whispering threats of prosecution that stink to high heaven like cow farts, and then they’ll let the whole thing fade. There’s simply no there, there.
>> “We have to show that there was specific intent to do the crime with requisite state of mind,”
And not only that, Z has constitutional protection against being tried twice for the same crime. Oh sure, it’s *theoretically possible* for DOJ to argue that “hate murder” and “murder” are two different crimes, but as I can hear O’Mara say... “...Really? REALLY?...”
DOJ will expel some ominous whispering threats of prosecution that stink to high heaven like cow farts, and then they’ll let the whole thing fade. There’s simply no there, there.
He would have to thwart the FBI report that concluded that the killing was NOT a hate crime. That sort of puts him in a corner.
They don’t need legal reasons (just like the State of Florida didn’t need them), but with their unlimited resources they can continue to harass Zimmerman and try to ruin him financially for their own political reasons, which we are seeing exposed today, and I’m betting that they will.
I just hear on Fox that the NAACP will come up with their own racist evidence against Zimmerman to help out the DOJ( Department Of Jokes )
despite outrage, federal charges uncertain?
who exactly is outraged? Lilberals? Race baiting agitators such as Sharpton? Why does the media, which allegedly gives us facts and news analysis, just assume that of course everyone is outraged at this verdict????
So, if Al Sharpton is outraged, then that means all of us are supposed to shocked at the verdict? All of us should want federal charges brought now because they didn’t get a guilty verdict in the criminal trial?
Not everyone is liberal, or look at everything through a prism that blacks can do no wrong, and are a grievance group for which we have to be mindful of the legacy of slavery and poverty and all that horseblank.
eric knew then the fbi investigation,which i am sure was specifically instructed to look as hard as hell to find it, didn’t find any evidence of it being a racial crime.
Racism ........ look no further than Holder and Obama for starters..... NAACP and the Black Congressional Caucus for finishers...
Obama is a blatant racist and Holder shoudld be impeached for the DOJ activities in Sanford Fla and his strong support of the New Black Panther Party... blatant racists.
Typical chip on shoulder attitude,,, oure ghetto in an Armani suit....scumbags
What outrage?
Other then a few low IQ acquaitances, I’ve seen none.
As discussed on another thread, attorney O'Mara is doing an excellent job pointing out to reporters facts about Martin's character and behavior which were established but not allowed to be introduced at trial. It seems like a shot across the bow of the race hustlers, "Hey, if you're going to continue with the BS, we're going to hit you with the truth. Every time."
I, too, think this will fade quickly -- particularly since all those folks with a license to produce Trayvon merchandise reallllllly don't want the truth coming out.
When it is a given that a guy fired a single shot at a stranger that had him pinned down and had been beating the sh** out of him for almost a minute, it’s hard to charge him with anything other than maybe chipping the concrete with his head. And since the other guy controlled his head at the time it’s hard to make even that stick.
A sad day in the US when prosecutions are now based on mob outcries not the rule of law or facts, and not just in some rural backwater. And if the mob is not big enough send in some DOJ thugs to agitate. Justice is devolving into something seen in ancient Rome where the rabble scream for someone to be tossed to the lions.
Plenty of us were outraged when Angela Davis skated for obtaining the shotgun used by her criminal friends to blow off the head of a judge in a famous black panthers case back in the 1960s. Some of the jurors were even quoted as saying that they voted to acquit because they felt sorry for past discrimination against African Americans.
Can any Freeper even recall the name of the judge who was sacrificed on the altar of political correctness back then? Or the awful toll in the cracker riots which followed in outrage over the acquittal?
Who's outraged???
uncertain is an understatement.
Is there a federal common law of self-defense? Or is it written into the statute?