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To: reaganaut1

The story has no legs and doesn’t make sense.

Obama has said, those who *committed* sexual crimes *should* be blah blah blah. I see nothing wrong with that. He’s the C&C, he can proscribe whatever punishment he wants and after all he says the definitive *committed* not the ambiguous “accused”.

Someone explain to me what’s wrong with what he said using terms other than perceived wrongdoing because Obama said it?

Military Justice fickle and not well circumscribed. It’s tribunal.


36 posted on 07/13/2013 6:59:28 PM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: Usagi_yo
The president’s remarks might have seemed innocuous to civilians, but military law experts say defense lawyers will seize on the president’s call for an automatic dishonorable discharge, the most severe discharge available in a court-martial, arguing that his words will affect their cases.

The article describes specific instances that have already been affected in just this way. Pretty much fulfillment of Koch's postulate for infection. You don't have to buy it though.

37 posted on 07/13/2013 7:54:22 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: Usagi_yo

The UCMJ has many similarities to the civilian justice system, but has many significant differences. In this case it is one of undue command influence, he is the CIC and has said what should happen in these types of cases. As in the Navy Corpseman case a couple of years ago, he did not do his homework and came across as singularly unimpressive. Being the CIC is not community organizing on the south side. After almost five years, one would think he would have figured it out by now, it appears he is not quite as smart as we were told.


40 posted on 07/13/2013 8:28:02 PM PDT by phormer phrog phlyer
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To: Usagi_yo
He’s the C&C, he can proscribe whatever punishment he wants and after all he says the definitive *committed* not the ambiguous “accused”.

He never should have unlocked his teeth and let this crap statement escape from between them. It would seem that as President he has better things to do with his time than insert his bias into every arena that his lack of wisdom, knowledge and honor drags him into. Every POTUS before him had enough brains to refrain from expressing this kind of thinking in public. Not this one. He has just violated Article 37a of the Uniform Code of Military Justice(UCMJ) which states that undue command influence(UCI) of a judicial proceeding is not to be tolerated. A really good President, not just a really good community organizer, would know that.

Presidents are supposed to have more pressing matters at hand the proscribing of punishments for every active court proceeding. Those issues are decided in law by Congress who writes the UCMJ and not by the whims of a man. We are still a Republic and not a dictatorship yet.

If he had to say something, all he should have said was "those who are found guilty of committing sexual crimes should be punished as the law allows" and nothing more.

45 posted on 07/14/2013 5:47:34 AM PDT by Tonytitan
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