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Snowden says he will seek asylum in Russia
Washington Post ^ | July 12, 2013 | Will Englund

Posted on 07/12/2013 9:51:26 AM PDT by Seizethecarp

Fugitive document-leaker Edward Snowden announced Friday that he is submitting a request for political asylum in Russia, where he has been stranded at Moscow’s Sheremetyevo Airport since June 23.

Eventually, the 30-year-old former contractor for the National Security Agency said in a meeting with human rights activists and lawyers, he still hopes to be granted asylum in Latin America.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: asylum; benghazi; bhorussia; edwardsnowden; fastandfurious; impeachnow; irs; nsa; putin; russia; snowden
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“I announce today my formal acceptance of all offers of support or asylum I have been extended and all others that may be offered in the future,” Snowden said, reading from a written statement. He cited, for example, Venezuela’s grant of asylum, but he said that “some governments” in Western Europe and North America were illegally interfering “with my right to enjoy that asylum,” making it impossible for him to travel to Latin America.

“Accordingly, I ask for your assistance in requesting guarantees of safe passage from the relevant nations in securing my travel to Latin America, as well as requesting asylum in Russia until such time as these states accede to law and my legal travel is permitted,” Snowden said. “I will be submitting my request to Russia today, and hope it will be accepted favorably.”

1 posted on 07/12/2013 9:51:26 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp

Putin got what he wanted...


2 posted on 07/12/2013 9:54:17 AM PDT by Rebel_Ace (Tags?!? Tags?!? We don' neeeed no stinkin' Tags!)
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To: Seizethecarp

Russia = Safe
Venezuela = Dog meat


3 posted on 07/12/2013 9:56:18 AM PDT by ryan71 (The Partisans)
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To: Seizethecarp

Greatest whistle blower, EVER.

YOU are being watched whether you send an email, make a phone call, or sue your pc chip in your debit card.

PRISM = Beast System


4 posted on 07/12/2013 9:57:28 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45 (Happily in tutelage by the reflection that they have chosen their own guardians.)
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To: ryan71

This sounds more like ‘proof of life’ than anything I’ve read so far.


5 posted on 07/12/2013 9:58:37 AM PDT by txhurl ('The DOG ate my homework. That homework, too. ALL my homework. OK?' - POSHITUS)
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To: Seizethecarp

“Flexibility”.. Nice trick, 0bama. You’ve transferred a ton of our national security secrets to Russia, and you did it under the guise of a disgruntled employee. I wonder if our missile defense shield data is in that treasure trove?


6 posted on 07/12/2013 10:01:20 AM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (If Americans were as concerned for their country as Egyptians are, Obama would be ousted!)
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To: ryan71

Only against open action from a government(as opposed as an independently acting private citizen), and that’s only as long as the US isn’t willing to cause an accident.

That, and I’m not terribly trusting of RT/HRW when they’re the only ones allowed to record the thing.


7 posted on 07/12/2013 10:02:50 AM PDT by setha (It is past time for the United States to take back what the world took away.)
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To: Seizethecarp

It was clear from the very beginning. Neither Venezuela has toilet paper and cold beer nor able to provide any security.


8 posted on 07/12/2013 10:05:34 AM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: Para-Ord.45
Don't be fooled. Look what happened here. The FIRST breach involved getting Americans on HIS side. Evoking anger of Americans against their government.. What happened next? Next came the good stuff. The stuff FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS WANT TO KNOW. That is what this was all about. Don't be fooled. This was an intelligence transfer 'false flag' op that began with enlisting the support of Americans, then DAMAGEVILLE to our national security.. A huge GAIN for hostile nations while at the same time fomenting sympathy by Americans for Snowden. You can't square those two factors, can you?
9 posted on 07/12/2013 10:08:13 AM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (If Americans were as concerned for their country as Egyptians are, Obama would be ousted!)
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To: Rebel_Ace

Putin got what he wanted...

Putin gets to poke Obama in the eye repeatedly for the next three years or longer....

He can say “snowden says this” or “snowden says that”, even if it isn’t true it will have glorious propaganda value.


10 posted on 07/12/2013 10:11:29 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

AMENDMENT IV

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon PROBABLE CAUSE, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the PLACE to be searched, and the PEROSNS or things to be seized.


11 posted on 07/12/2013 10:14:30 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: Seizethecarp
I hate all of this. Home of the free.... yet we tear up our own Constitution. We appear to be hypocrites when we speak out on human rights issues.

It will also affect our business interests. Tech companies will pay a price for their collusion in the world marketplace.
12 posted on 07/12/2013 10:16:18 AM PDT by StolarStorm
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To: ryan71

Yep. In Venezuela he’s a sitting duck for a drone strike or a covert op hit or kidnapping.


13 posted on 07/12/2013 10:17:07 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Seizethecarp
Snowden says he will seek asylum in Russia

And Putin now has the goods on everybody that Obama and the Rats have the goods on, plus he has the goods on Obama and the Rats.

This isn't working out the way Obama and his Rats planned.

So sad.

14 posted on 07/12/2013 10:17:22 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: ryan71
During Snowden's first Hong Kong video interview he acted confident, was verbose, and had a post nasal drip going on, consistent with a cocaine buzz. He lived with a pole dancer, probably making more than he did giving lap dances. Drug use is common among club dancers. Someone willing to throw their citizenship away forever for 15 minutes of fame is probably not thinking straight. Snowden may favor drug producing countries because of the low cost of drugs there.

Russia has a booming economy, 13% flat tax, no capital gains tax, and most people are not even required to file tax forms. They have an oversupply of beautiful unmarried Caucasian women and few minorities. Their population density has fallen to the point they favor freedom and traditional values and reject communism. The language is hard to learn but Russia has far more going for it than a third world banana republic.

15 posted on 07/12/2013 10:19:53 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: Rebel_Ace

Putin got what he wanted...


And Anna Chapman?

Ex-Russian spy Anna Chapman proposes marriage to Edward Snowden

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/news/ex-russian-spy-anna-chapman-proposes-marriage-edward-171009157.html


16 posted on 07/12/2013 10:20:27 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: Seizethecarp

If I were him, Russia would be my new home.


17 posted on 07/12/2013 10:23:22 AM PDT by Gator113
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To: Navy Patriot

This isn’t working out the way Obama and his Rats planned.


This is just so unfair.....


18 posted on 07/12/2013 10:28:24 AM PDT by txhurl ('The DOG ate my homework. That homework, too. ALL my homework. OK?' - POSHITUS)
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To: Gator113

Me too. Why would anyone want to live in Venezuela?


19 posted on 07/12/2013 10:32:12 AM PDT by 3Quartets
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To: Para-Ord.45

You really didn’t already know about the patriot act?

Has your neighbor, you or anyone you know been harassed by snooping?

This OWS far left punk has made it OK now in American’s minds to pass classified secrets to foreign govts...that is not ok and he should be prosecuted.


20 posted on 07/12/2013 10:37:56 AM PDT by what's up
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To: Reeses

I haven’t seen any evidence, in any of his statements or actions, that suggest that he is looking for fame or fortune. He sounded sober and resigned to his semi-doomed fate. He had a pretty cushy, comfortable life in Hawaii with a great job, and a slutty GF. It really appears that he is one of a handful of gov agents that have acted on principle.

At the end of the day, most Americans believe that these dragnet monitoring programs, focused on citizens, are wrong.


21 posted on 07/12/2013 10:45:06 AM PDT by catbertz
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To: catbertz

Putin’s condition that he quit leaking stuff on the admin... could mean let US do the leaking, privately, to each of the US maggots that need taking out.

Russia tried to help us with Boston... if Snowden asks to release stuff about it -ESPECIALLY in light of Al-Aharbi being invited to the 4th of July in the WH - Putin may accede. He hates jihadis, too, and he suffered the most heartbreaking case of jihad.


22 posted on 07/12/2013 10:57:22 AM PDT by txhurl ('The DOG ate my homework. That homework, too. ALL my homework. OK?' - POSHITUS)
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To: what's up

Your emotions lead to knee-jerk conclusions.
Something I expect from the totalitarian left.

AHEM:

Congressman Sensenbrenner:

“As the author of the Patriot Act, I am extremely troubled by the FBI’s interpretation of this legislation. While I believe the Patriot Act appropriately balanced national security concerns and civil rights, I have always worried about potential abuses. The Bureau’s broad application for phone records was made under the so-called business records provision of the Act. I do not believe the broadly drafted FISA order is consistent with the requirements of the Patriot Act. Seizing phone records of millions of innocent people is excessive and un-American.”


23 posted on 07/12/2013 11:27:10 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45 (Happily in tutelage by the reflection that they have chosen their own guardians.)
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To: Gator113

It’s the one place on earth so vast he really could stay hiding in.


24 posted on 07/12/2013 12:10:44 PM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

“A huge GAIN for hostile nations while at the same time fomenting sympathy by Americans for Snowden. “

What particular advantage does he gain by revealing himself? Wouldn’t it have been more advantageous for him to quietly operate under the radar rather than turn himself into the man without a country? Why would Americans having sympathy for him be a motive unless he was hoping to return?


25 posted on 07/12/2013 12:33:10 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: Seizethecarp

I have had to laugh at commentators on the cable news stations. I’ve heard some of the women, one just two days ago, laugh and say...I guess he’s sleeping on the floor in the airport.

Geez...if they did their homework, they would have found out the very first day that he’s at an airport hotel.


26 posted on 07/12/2013 12:34:23 PM PDT by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real, they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: Seizethecarp

Folks need to remember that Snowden embarked upon his contract with the intention of disclosing secrets and that his major initial heartache was that Obama broke his promise to close Gitmo.

Also, remember, Snowden didn’t go to a member of Congress (such as Rand Paul) of the media to reveal this. He went to China. Then Russia. Now Venezuela.

And he has threatened to reveal other secrets as well.

Finally, he is the first US person with a security clearance to publicly state that Stuxnet was a joint US/Israeli operation. What possible “patriotic” motivation could he have had for that revelation???


27 posted on 07/12/2013 12:54:49 PM PDT by LSUfan
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To: LSUfan
"Also, remember, Snowden didn’t go to a member of Congress (such as Rand Paul) of the media to reveal this. He went to China. Then Russia. Now Venezuela."

He cannot get a fair trial here in a secret court. He is forced to accept help from wherever possible now. The countries that are offering help are countries that are willing to thumb their noses at the USA imperialistic government.

"And he has threatened to reveal other secrets as well."

I hope he reveals every unConstitutional secret that exists.

28 posted on 07/12/2013 1:02:29 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( “The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws.” - Tacitus)
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To: setha

RT/HRW?


29 posted on 07/12/2013 1:05:58 PM PDT by ELS
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To: Seizethecarp

Good option.

Venezuela is a rat hole.


30 posted on 07/12/2013 1:11:22 PM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

If Snowden blew Benghazi, Boston and F&F sky-high, I bet he’d start to get a little better treatment around here. I hope Putin lets him.

Although I doubt we’ll be hearing any more out of him if Russia takes him.


31 posted on 07/12/2013 1:20:22 PM PDT by txhurl ('The DOG ate my homework. That homework, too. ALL my homework. OK?' - POSHITUS)
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To: txhurl

That’s the thing.

Everyone, including Putin, and many others know it’s not Snowden anymore.

Before Snowden revealed himself and the info about the Prism program.. he gave lots of information to people around the globe and told them to hold it in case something happens to him.

The Guardian says they could publish up to 12 more stories just as big as the Prism program.

Anything happens to Snowden and who knows what could be released.

Not just stuff about the US. Remember.. his job was to spy on everyone. Russia included.


32 posted on 07/12/2013 1:23:43 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: cunning_fish

Like living in a 3rd world sewer, no pc intended.


33 posted on 07/12/2013 1:38:28 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: Seizethecarp

I cannot go to Venezuela until they have T.P. for my bunghole.


34 posted on 07/12/2013 1:40:43 PM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: ConservativeMan55

I’d expect Putin by now would have insisted and witnessed Snowden retracting his distributed files in exchange for luxurious instead of penitential asylum, with maybe a few exceptions.

Putin’s oddly hegemonous with the American people: he considerately balkanized us into 5 states, wears our cowboy hats and boots. He knows zero could have stopped Boston. He knows zero planned or approved Benghazi.

I can only hope he helps us with the info we need via Snowden.


35 posted on 07/12/2013 1:42:17 PM PDT by txhurl ('The DOG ate my homework. That homework, too. ALL my homework. OK?' - POSHITUS)
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To: Seizethecarp
I've said for weeks that Snowden may have been working for the Russians since he was a CIA tech security specialist in Switzerland six years ago. Snowden had diplomatic cover when he worked in Geneva. This would bring him into contact with other embassies and their staffs including the Russians.
36 posted on 07/12/2013 2:50:26 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: LSUfan
Finally, he is the first US person with a security clearance to publicly state that Stuxnet was a joint US/Israeli operation. What possible “patriotic” motivation could he have had for that revelation???

Not really. The Israelis themselves released that info after they got upset at Obama for leaking that the US was responsible.

37 posted on 07/12/2013 3:11:41 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: ELS

Russia Today and Human Rights Watch.


38 posted on 07/12/2013 3:19:39 PM PDT by setha (It is past time for the United States to take back what the world took away.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

“I’ve said for weeks that Snowden may have been working for the Russians since he was a CIA tech security specialist in Switzerland six years ago.”

Snowden spouts rationalizations that could have been used by foreign agents to recruit him to work against the US.

I have to wonder whether foreign agent moles in the subcontracted security vetting corporation and/or the contract firm that hired him may have made sure he got placed where he could do the most damage.


39 posted on 07/12/2013 3:28:19 PM PDT by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Reeses
...had a post nasal drip going on, consistent with a cocaine buzz.

Post nasal drip = cocaine usage?

Geez!

40 posted on 07/12/2013 3:32:19 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Seizethecarp

You can know a man by what angers him.

I guess I’m a hopeless romantic hoping he will avenge us for the atrocities the admin has committed against us,
not just the PRISM stuff.


41 posted on 07/12/2013 3:33:56 PM PDT by txhurl ('The DOG ate my homework. That homework, too. ALL my homework. OK?' - POSHITUS)
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To: Seizethecarp; mickie; flaglady47; pax_et_bonum; Maine Mariner
I think Snowden has already been assured at least temporary asylum by Putey. Otherwise, he would have not put out this statement as it reads.

Obama should have immediately granted immunity to Snowden even before he landed in Hong Kong....and got his a$$ home along with his cache of secret information.

But he wanted to play the dramatic role of a manly black James Bond, dealing with a dangerous "spy".....and saving the country from Snowfinger.

Now the cold war will start cooling up again here and there with sniping, tensions, carping and mutual accusations between the U.S. and Russia....the conclusion of this affair being another brilliant and outstanding solution to a problem by the Obama/Kerry/Clinton-lite/Brennan cabal of international geniuses.

Leni

42 posted on 07/12/2013 3:34:18 PM PDT by MinuteGal (')
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To: LSUfan
Finally, he is the first US person with a security clearance to publicly state that Stuxnet was a joint US/Israeli operation. What possible “patriotic” motivation could he have had for that revelation???

His views fit with those of libertarians like Ron and Rand Paul very consistently. They hate when big government takes away the civil liberties of U.S. citizens but they also hate when big government intervenes inside foreign countries. Let's not forget Rand Paul has ranted against the use of drones not just on American soil but also against al-Awlaki in Yemen. The traditional conservative usually agrees with half of what the libertarians think in this case and others. At least what Snowden has released is specifically consistent with his ideological beliefs, and not the random document dump that Wikileaks and Bradley Manning did which exposed both random trivial matters and the identities of agents which put them at risk.

I think his hand was forced as far as putting his name and face out there, especially once reporters started overhearing government sources say they wanted the leaker to be "disappeared." If his name wasn't out, he could be taken out in the middle of the night and no one would ever know what happened.

As for Putin, at least he is extremely patriotic and fighting hard for his country's interests on the international stage. If only we had a president who cared about our country that much.

43 posted on 07/12/2013 3:54:09 PM PDT by JediJones (Gridlock means taking credit for stuff that automatically happens while you do nothing)
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To: FreeReign
Post nasal drip = cocaine usage?

Post nasal drip, frequent swallows, and a runny nose are common symptoms of someone that snorted cocaine. Being confident, talkative, skinny, having a strip club dancer for an ex-girlfriend, doing stupid things with their life, and wanting to move to a cocaine producing country are other small clues. One clue isn't enough but there's a pattern here.

44 posted on 07/12/2013 5:13:55 PM PDT by Reeses
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To: catbertz
Snowden is likely an Obama operator.

"I do not want to live in a world where everything I do and say is recorded. That is not something I am willing to support or live under." "I don't want to live in a world where there's no privacy, and therefore no room for intellectual exploration and creativity." And he then asks for asylum in Venezuela (now Russia). Only Zimbabwe, Cuba, and North Korea are less free, according to Heritage. Obama loves Venezuela. Communists. "I understand that I will be made to suffer for my actions, and that the return of this information to the public marks my end." "There’s no saving me." "The only thing I fear is the harmful effects on my family, who I won't be able to help any more. That's what keeps me up at night." "I do not expect to see home again." His actions (not including the actual "whistleblowing")and movements can hardly be considered heroic or selfless. Fears for his family? What family? He has no family of his own. His father was a coast guard officer who lives in Pennsylvania, his mother a federal court clerk in Maryland.

I think this whole thing is an operation to transfer through a noble patsy whatever secrets are valuable to the Communists, and long term, to accomplish this (contrary to Snowden's expressed fear): "The great fear (replace fear with desire) that I have regarding the outcome for America of these disclosures is that nothing will change. [People] won't be willing to take the risks necessary to stand up and fight to change things... And in the months ahead, the years ahead, it's only going to get worse. [The NSA will] say that... because of the crisis, the dangers that we face in the world, some new and unpredicted threat, we need more authority, we need more power, and there will be nothing the people can do at that point to oppose it. And it will be turnkey tyranny."

Soften the resistance to universal surveillance. Get it out there; let everyone have the thought, continuously, that they are being recorded at all times.

Snowden asks the question for Obama, Putin, Maduro, Chavez, Stalin, et. al., Will you have tyranny?

Then see what happens. My bet is nothing at all, just as nothing at all has happened in any of these other scandals. They do these things with impunity. And so they will have their answer.

Then tyranny can begin in earnest.

45 posted on 07/12/2013 5:35:21 PM PDT by ecomcon
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To: Rebel_Ace

“Putin got what he wanted...”

And Obama got exposed as an anti-Constitutionalist. If Snowden ran for President he’d get my vote. We need more like him that are willing to sacrifice personally, and less like those greedsters that are in bed with corruption and crony lobbyists, and willing to sacrifice our rights.


46 posted on 07/12/2013 5:37:00 PM PDT by apoliticalone
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To: ecomcon

Interesting theory. Some guy accessess Bananrama’s social security information and takes a bullet to the head in an unsolved murder on the streets of DC, but this guy gets more media exposure than Clinton getting orally satisfied in the White House.

Hmmm....


47 posted on 07/12/2013 6:23:43 PM PDT by Gabrial (The nightmare will continue as long as the nightmare is in the Whitehouse)
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To: Seizethecarp

“I have to wonder whether foreign agent moles in the subcontracted security vetting corporation and/or the contract firm that hired him may have made sure he got placed where he could do the most damage.”

He revealed the damage the NSA has done to the Constitution. I suppose “foreign agent moles” may have wanted that to happen.

In any case, I’m thankful the abuse of the Constitution was revealed.


48 posted on 07/12/2013 6:45:55 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( “The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws.” - Tacitus)
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To: Seizethecarp

God be with him...


49 posted on 07/12/2013 8:00:55 PM PDT by Morgana (Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: ryan71

Bump. Russia would be my first choice.


50 posted on 07/12/2013 8:10:56 PM PDT by GVnana
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