[SE Mom]

I don’t understand. If the jury finds GZ not-guilty of 2nd degree then they are in essence saying the shooting was self-defense, yes? Then that covers any and all charges, doesn’t it ? I mean self-defense is the same regardless of what degree of homicide or manslaughter.

[SE Mom]

Would you answer the question in post 11? If it’s self-defense then it’s self-defense no matter the charge, isn’t it?

[tflabo]

Yep and those who commit intentional manslaughter always call 911 first and wind up bloodied from a beating.

[piytar]

Bingo. I don’t bother explaining this much, but if the jury finds that the prosecution failed to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Z’s actions were NOT self-defense, Z walks on all charges. Period.

[Logical me]

I mean self-defense is the same regardless of what degree of homicide or manslaughter.

Not in liberal rats kangaroo court. White on black and white will always lose. Take a note here, who is pushing the racial card?

[traditional1]

"I mean self-defense is the same regardless of what degree of homicide or manslaughter"

NOT when the "victim" is black; then, it's NEVER okay to defend yourself.....